The Electric Car
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From: rick_sobie on 26 Sep 2007 18:05 On Sep 26, 10:58 pm, rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > On Sep 26, 10:54 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > > > Eeyore wrote: > > > > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > > > > > Eeyore wrote: > > > > > > > Learn some science before spouting off a load of nonsese next time will you ? > > > > > > Do you live in a cave? > > > > > >http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/car-runs-on-water-inventor-to-be-k... > > > > > Bwahahahaahahaa ! Do you live in an asylum ? > > > > > Too funny. What do you do for an encore ? > > > > > Graham > > > > Well people all over the world are doing it for themselves > > > You mean fraudstera all over the world. > > > > and youtube is just one place where you can see all sorts of people using a simple > > > process of electro-statics to separate hydrogen and oxygen. > > > It's one place where the fraudsters 'advertise'. And also where clueless morons like > > you congregate patting your own stupid little backs. > > > The 'device' in that car was making a few bubbles of Brown's Gas. Simply not enough to > > power an engine but enough for a gullible journalist to fall for it. > > > Graham > > Right. I believe you. I also believe you and a lot of other people > want people to not make Brown's gas. > > Except its too late to stop it. > > They use it in welding equipment all over the world. > > This guy from America in that video did not invent that welding > equipment. Its in common use all over the world.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzJZJjo9MNA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ItyiJ1uBUY
From: rick_sobie on 26 Sep 2007 18:18 On Sep 26, 11:05 pm, rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > On Sep 26, 10:58 pm, rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > > > > > On Sep 26, 10:54 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > > > > Eeyore wrote: > > > > > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > > > > > > Eeyore wrote: > > > > > > > > Learn some science before spouting off a load of nonsese next time will you ? > > > > > > > Do you live in a cave? > > > > > > >http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/car-runs-on-water-inventor-to-be-k... > > > > > > Bwahahahaahahaa ! Do you live in an asylum ? > > > > > > Too funny. What do you do for an encore ? > > > > > > Graham > > > > > Well people all over the world are doing it for themselves > > > > You mean fraudstera all over the world. > > > > > and youtube is just one place where you can see all sorts of people using a simple > > > > process of electro-statics to separate hydrogen and oxygen. > > > > It's one place where the fraudsters 'advertise'. And also where clueless morons like > > > you congregate patting your own stupid little backs. > > > > The 'device' in that car was making a few bubbles of Brown's Gas. Simply not enough to > > > power an engine but enough for a gullible journalist to fall for it. > > > > Graham > > > Right. I believe you. I also believe you and a lot of other people > > want people to not make Brown's gas. > > > Except its too late to stop it. > > > They use it in welding equipment all over the world. > > > This guy from America in that video did not invent that welding > > equipment. Its in common use all over the world.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzJZJjo9MNA > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ItyiJ1uBUY Yeah this is really difficult to duplicate. It is rocket science. Someday scientists will study it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYNwuLL_pOE
From: krw on 26 Sep 2007 18:35 In article <46F9C985.5E006F26(a)hotmail.com>, rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > krw wrote: > > > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > Rich Grise wrote: > > > > John Larkin wrote: > > > > > BradGuth <bradguth(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > ... > > > > >>BTW, here's a wild idea breakthrough: A piston engine of 4 cycles is > > > > >>about as mechanically inefficient of an IC enigne as it gets, and the > > > > >>burning of a mostly N2 atmosphere is every bit as dumbfounded physics on > > > > >>steroids as it gets, and the last time I'd checked that's no conspiracy > > > > >>theory. > > > > > > > > > > Piston engines haven't changes fundamentally in 100 years, despite lots of > > > > > challenges from turbines, Sterling monstrosities, various weird rotary > > > > > engines, steam, fuel cells, whatever. That's pretty impressive. Still > > > > > pistons, rings, cranks, cams, poppet valves, spark plugs. > > > > > > > > I've heard that someone has even tried electric valves, but it didn't > > > > fly for some reason. > > > > > > Expect to see more of that. The idea is to reduce power consumption. The load on > > > the cambelt or chain is quite significant. > > > > You think the electricity to drive the valves will come free? > > Don't be so ridiculous. That's what you said, dumb donkey. Take a look back about 6 or seven lines. > > You're going to save energy by converting that mechanical energy to > > electricity and then drive a motor to the valve? Michael was right. > > You are 1% as smart as a fence post, though I think he was being > > kind. > > The fact of the matter is that electric valve operation is being very seriously > researched. It offers huge advantages in terms of variable valve timing of course. > http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/application.jsp?nodeId=02Wcbf56hRCrcd Dumb donkey, the fact of the matter is that you said electric valves were coming back to "reduce power consumption" and "the load on the cambelt or chain is quite significant". The fact of the matter, dumb donkey, is that electrically actuating the valves won't reduce the power needed to the valves one bit. It may have other advantages, but that's *NOT* what the dumb donkey said. > Your ignorance in this matter is NO surprise. Mind you, Americans do like doing things > in 'old fashioned' ways. Tell me all about your push-rod engines won't you ? How fast > do they rev before bounce kills them ? *I* am not the dumb donkey, dumb donkey. -- Keith
From: rick_sobie on 26 Sep 2007 18:40 > > > > This guy from America in that video did not invent that welding > > > equipment. Its in common use all over the world.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzJZJjo9MNA > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ItyiJ1uBUY > > Yeah this is really difficult to duplicate. It is rocket science. > Someday scientists will study it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYNwuLL_pOE Until scientists study it though, sheep farmers in Australia will be using it to run their tractors. They just throw together some parts from their milking equipment and Bob's yer uncle mate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykGZ2tRY4kY&mode=related&search=
From: Eeyore on 26 Sep 2007 18:42
rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > > > Eeyore wrote: > > > > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > > > > > Eeyore wrote: > > > > > > > > Learn some science before spouting off a load of nonsese next time will you ? > > > > > > > Do you live in a cave? > > > > > > >http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/car-runs-on-water-inventor-to-be-k... > > > > > > Bwahahahaahahaa ! Do you live in an asylum ? > > > > > > Too funny. What do you do for an encore ? > > > > > > Well people all over the world are doing it for themselves > > > > You mean fraudstera all over the world. > > > > > and youtube is just one place where you can see all sorts of people using a simple > > > process of electro-statics to separate hydrogen and oxygen. > > > > It's one place where the fraudsters 'advertise'. And also where clueless morons like > > you congregate patting your own stupid little backs. > > > > The 'device' in that car was making a few bubbles of Brown's Gas. Simply not enough to > > power an engine but enough for a gullible journalist to fall for it. > > > Right. I believe you. I also believe you and a lot of other people > want people to not make Brown's gas. > > Except its too late to stop it. No-one's trying to STOP it ! Feel free to waste energy making it. > They use it in welding equipment all over the world. For very specific reasons where it makes sense to do so. > This guy from America in that video did not invent that welding > equipment. Its in common use all over the world. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzJZJjo9MNA The fabled 'resonator' method of hydrolysis alleged to use less power than conventional electrolysis. More 'junk science'. Whenever scientifically tested, the claims have been shown to be false. Even the originator of this video said he made no measurements ! So, this video shows an example of the ordinary electrolysis of water. You get less power out than you put in. That's pretty stupid for a start ! Graham |