The Electric Car
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From: Eeyore on 26 Sep 2007 21:22 rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com wrote: > If you lived in the country, or on a farm, you would want to have a > solar battery setup, I would WANT to have mains electricity actually. > and then you would produce your own power for > your equipment for free using water. Not for free unless the the generating kit is being given away these days. Batteries require regular replacement too. That's not free either. Graham
From: rick_sobie on 26 Sep 2007 21:27 On Sep 26, 11:44 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ItyiJ1uBUY > > Why waste energy making Brown's gas ? > > Graham Well its not a waste of energy. As you have seen in the Korean video from one company producing the Brown's Gas generator, it is 1/16th the cost of oxy-acetylene. So for industrial countries, they can save money on the assembly line for spot welding. But really employing it in that fashion world wide, just allows us to really get the technology out there, so that Aussie farmers can make you all look like a bunch of dunderheads. Seriously. Don't you feel really really stupid when you see how easy it is, to take a few pieces of metal, and put them in a jar, like a battery, which incidentally does give off gas of this sort remember? Batteries do give off gas. But then you geniuses wouldn't know how a battery works because it is too high tech for you NASA scientists and the like. But you just use the same principal as a battery to make the gas, only you do it more efficiently and then you connect a tube to the top of the jar, and run that into the carburetor, and it makes the motor go. Someone really needs to get you people outside of your cushy offices and draw the principles with a stick in the dirt for you because I think you must be lost in space or something. You should be able to make a little desktop power generator for motor- homes that runs on water. You should also be able to run the motorhome on water. And so then when you go exploring in the outback, or wherever, you just have to be able to find water and you will never run out of fuel. But again to answer the question why have they been making welders of this kind, it is so you could not poison all the people who were using this technology, and you could not coerce them into not using it but mostly to show how incompetent you are at what you do. This is really my favorite because you can see just how high tech this is, and why it has stumped the pentagon and NASA for so long. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSdxEonivNU
From: Eeyore on 26 Sep 2007 21:37 "rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com" wrote: > You can easily get 100 mpg on a liter of water. No you CAN'T. The electrolysis of the water requires electrical energy. The electrical energy required to do this electrolysis is MORE than you get back in return from the hydrogen and oxygen so formed. Because of this wastefulness, the overall energy efficiency of the process is WORSE than running the car on gasoline in the first place. Of course if you mean it's >100mpg because you used no *gasoline* to power the car then that's simply a case of misleading accounting. Or it could be called a LIE. Graham
From: Eeyore on 26 Sep 2007 21:38 Androcles wrote: > Cars are 18% efficient Only in the USA are they that bad. Graham
From: Eeyore on 26 Sep 2007 21:40
rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ItyiJ1uBUY > > > > Why waste energy making Brown's gas ? > > > Well its not a waste of energy. As you have seen in the Korean video > from one company producing the Brown's Gas generator, it is 1/16th the > cost of oxy-acetylene. We were talking about cars (note the thread title) not acetylene torches and welding. I don't know of any cars running on acetylene. Why are you confusing the issue ? Graham |