From: rick_sobie on
On Sep 27, 3:41 am, rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote:
> On Sep 27, 3:02 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote:
> > > What does it cost to fill up a car these days?
>
> > > For the cost of two fillups, you can covert it to run on water using
> > > that simple principal.
>
> > So, presumably in view of this compelling evidence you must have converted your
> > car to run on water then ?
>
> > Why not tell us how well it works ?
>
> > Graham
>
> I live downtown in Victoria. I hardly ever use my car. I spend maybe
> 200 bucks a year to fuel it but if I lived in the country I would
> convert it for sure.
>
> When someone comes up with a neat off the shelf package for 80 bucks
> at Canadian Tire (our automotive retail giant) I will throw one in the
> New Yorker. Until then I am too lazy to make one myself.
>
> No I am thinking of buying one of these electric bikes.http://www.e-ride.ca/Electric_Scooters/Motorino_BTr.html
> 4 cents a day to run it.
>
> And the cost is $1800 today but they will drop in price to a grand in
> a year or two. It is one of the fastest growing industries right now,
> making and selling these things.
>
> This is just stupid selling them for $11,000 when you can buy one for
> $1500http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/lifestyle/329866_seenscene01.html
>
> Here is a nice one for $1800http://www.e-ride.ca/Electric_Scooters/Motorino_XPi.html

If you are interested in speed, this three wheeler will do 80 km hr.
http://www.greenwit.com/Scooters/ATVScooter.htm



From: Robert Adsett on
In article <1190860913.462208.183700(a)57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>,
says...
> No I am thinking of buying one of these electric bikes.
> http://www.e-ride.ca/Electric_Scooters/Motorino_BTr.html
> 4 cents a day to run it.
>
> And the cost is $1800 today but they will drop in price to a grand in
> a year or two. It is one of the fastest growing industries right now,
> making and selling these things.
>
> This is just stupid selling them for $11,000 when you can buy one for
> $1500
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/lifestyle/329866_seenscene01.html
>
> Here is a nice one for $1800
> http://www.e-ride.ca/Electric_Scooters/Motorino_XPi.html

Did you look at the specifications? Those are very different machines.
One with a 30km range and a 30km/hr top speed, the other with a 60mile
range and a 60mph top speed.

Robert

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From: rick_sobie on
You know Americans are up to their keester in debt. The government and
the people for the last 7 years or so, have been not working unless
you call making websites working, and they have been borrowing like
crazy, and now of course with what they call the sub prime catastrophe
well things are beginning to tighten up.
No where near as tight as they will be in 6 months.
So making $100,000 electric sports cars, is ok for some people, some
people will always be able to afford that, but most will be looking at
scooters.
This looks like a nice car for $100,000
http://www.nbc11.com/technology/14203443/detail.html

But for GM and the rest well, all those cars and SUV's you see on the
road, well a lot of them are bad loans right now, and people have to
give lots of them back. So prices may fall on used SUV's.

From: Robert Adsett on
In article <1190864038.610319.23630(a)o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
says...
> On Sep 27, 4:15 am, Robert Adsett <s...(a)aeolusdevelopment.com> wrote:
> > In article <1190860913.462208.183...(a)57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>,
> > says...
> >
> > > No I am thinking of buying one of these electric bikes.
> > >http://www.e-ride.ca/Electric_Scooters/Motorino_BTr.html
> > > 4 cents a day to run it.
> >
> > > And the cost is $1800 today but they will drop in price to a grand in
> > > a year or two. It is one of the fastest growing industries right now,
> > > making and selling these things.
> >
> > > This is just stupid selling them for $11,000 when you can buy one for
> > > $1500
> > >http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/lifestyle/329866_seenscene01.html
> >
> > > Here is a nice one for $1800
> > >http://www.e-ride.ca/Electric_Scooters/Motorino_XPi.html
> >
> > Did you look at the specifications? Those are very different machines.
> > One with a 30km range and a 30km/hr top speed, the other with a 60mile
> > range and a 60mph top speed.
> >
> I think the regulations are different in America and Canada.
> In America they are allowed to let them go faster. In Canada they
> managed to get them classified as a bike, so you don't have to even
> have a drivers license.

Not in most of the country as far as I know. I'm fairly certain that
scooters are classified as motorcycles in Ontario for instance.

> If you want an electric motorcycle, then in Canada you need a drivers
> license to operate those, and they sell for about $2,500 to $3,500
>
> It depends what you want one for. For me, just to get around the city,
> it would be perfect. And since it is classified as a bike, you don't
> even have to pay for parking. You can park a bicycle anywhere.
>
> So it faster than a car to get around in the city, even faster than
> the bus, according to people who have bought them in Vancouver.
> But they are limited to 32 km hr. Well that is normal for in city
> driving.

30km/hr is reasonable for some in city driving but most of the countries
urban roads have 50 or 60km/hr limit so you are travelling slower than
the rest of the traffic. Not necessarily a huge impediment but I'd want
to stay out of heavy traffic.

>
> If you wanted to take one on the highway, well if you want to be in
> traffic on the highway, then you would want an electric motorcycle.
> This one will do 70 km hr. which would be ok for commuting.
> Considering it only costs $2,700 brand new, thats pretty cheap.
> And pennies a day to run. Like maybe 8 cents a day.
> http://www.e-ride.ca/Electric_Motorcycles/MotGTc.html

70km/hr is close to suicide on the highway. It's dangerous enough in an
automobile I shudder to imagine what that would be like on a bike.

> You see why spend 40 or 50,000 on an electric car, when you can spend
> $2,700 on a bike?

There's a little matter of 6-8 months of snow, ice and sleet.

Robert

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From: Paul F. Dietz on
> I mean if you are so down on Arabs and the people of Iran, why not
> just opt for Brown's gas and make all that oil worthless?

Because "Brown's gas" is in utterly idiotic idea espoused only
by the terminally stupid?

Paul