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From: rick_sobie on 26 Sep 2007 19:15 In article <4anlf31a9igkhujrdqaonn1qvqqqennnu2(a)4ax.com>, mart_in_medina(a)ya___.es says... > > >On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:18:18 -0700, in sci.electronics.design >rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com wrote: > >>On Sep 26, 11:05 pm, rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: >>> On Sep 26, 10:58 pm, rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> > On Sep 26, 10:54 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> > > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: >>> > > > Eeyore wrote: >>> > > > > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: >>> > > > > > Eeyore wrote: >>> >>> > > > > > > Learn some science before spouting off a load of nonsese next time will you ? >>> >>> > > > > > Do you live in a cave? >>> >>> > > > > >http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/car-runs-on-water-inventor-to-be-k... >>> >>> > > > > Bwahahahaahahaa ! Do you live in an asylum ? >>> >>> > > > > Too funny. What do you do for an encore ? >>> >>> > > > > Graham >>> >>> > > > Well people all over the world are doing it for themselves >>> >>> > > You mean fraudstera all over the world. >>> >>> > > > and youtube is just one place where you can see all sorts of people using a simple >>> > > > process of electro-statics to separate hydrogen and oxygen. >>> >>> > > It's one place where the fraudsters 'advertise'. And also where clueless morons like >>> > > you congregate patting your own stupid little backs. >>> >>> > > The 'device' in that car was making a few bubbles of Brown's Gas. Simply not enough to >>> > > power an engine but enough for a gullible journalist to fall for it. >>> >>> > > Graham >>> >>> > Right. I believe you. I also believe you and a lot of other people >>> > want people to not make Brown's gas. >>> >>> > Except its too late to stop it. >>> >>> > They use it in welding equipment all over the world. >>> >>> > This guy from America in that video did not invent that welding >>> > equipment. Its in common use all over the world.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzJZJjo9MNA >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ItyiJ1uBUY >> >>Yeah this is really difficult to duplicate. It is rocket science. >>Someday scientists will study it. >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYNwuLL_pOE >That video didn't work very well, no sound, but >you have forgotten the 3 Laws, not Asimov's, (I met him once, a bright >lad, a lot of potential) > > 1) You can't win. > 2) You can't break even. > 3) You can't quit the game. > >and I'm sure there is a theory about them, probably involving the >words "Theromodynamics, Laws, of" > >Then there was this posh guy wot uttered > >"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the >intelligent are full of doubt" - Bertrand Russell, maybe you have >heard of him. > >Methinks that you are in the first category > > >Martin There are none so blind as cannot even believe what an Aussie sheep farmer shows them. Watch it for yourself. Watch him run a car, with this rudimentary device. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSdxEonivNU&mode=related&search=
From: Eeyore on 26 Sep 2007 19:20 rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > > > Yeah this is really difficult to duplicate. It is rocket science. > > > Someday scientists will study it. > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYNwuLL_pOE > > > > Scientists have known about electrolysis for a LONG LONG time. > > > > You get less energy back (as flammable gases) than you put in (as electricity). > > > > It's a waste of energy. > > > > Graham > > lol Oh yes we believe you. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSdxEonivNU&mode=related&search= Clever looking demonstrations with no measurements are purely there to impress the terminally foolish. That means fuckwits like YOU. Graham
From: Eeyore on 26 Sep 2007 19:22 Androcles wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > : rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com wrote: > : > : > Yeah this is really difficult to duplicate. It is rocket science. > : > Someday scientists will study it. > : > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYNwuLL_pOE > : > : Scientists have known about electrolysis for a LONG LONG time. > : > : You get less energy back (as flammable gases) than you put in (as > electricity). > : > : It's a waste of energy. > : > : Graham > > ALL energy is wasted. Power stations are 34% efficient, > give then up, go without electricity, you are wasting energy. If power stations ran on Brown's gas they'd be maybe 20% efficient. That's the point. Graham
From: Eeyore on 26 Sep 2007 19:21 Androcles wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > : rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com wrote: > : > : > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ItyiJ1uBUY > : > : Why waste energy making Brown's gas ? > : > : Graham > > Why waste energy cracking petroleum from crude? > Why waste energy writing to a newsgroup when you can > go back to sleep and enjoy your stupid ignorance? Does your head rattle ? It must be that pea inside it. Graham
From: rick_sobie on 26 Sep 2007 19:45
In article <46FAE060.303F2B53(a)hotmail.com>, rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > > >rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com wrote: > >> Eeyore wrote: >> > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: >> > > Eeyore wrote: >> > > > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: >> > > > > Eeyore wrote: >> > >> > > > > > Learn some science before spouting off a load of nonsese next time will you ? >> > >> > > > > Do you live in a cave? >> > >> > > > >http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/car-runs-on-water-inventor-to-be-k... >> > >> > > > Bwahahahaahahaa ! Do you live in an asylum ? >> > >> > > > Too funny. What do you do for an encore ? >> >> > >> > > Well people all over the world are doing it for themselves >> > >> > You mean fraudstera all over the world. >> > >> > > and youtube is just one place where you can see all sorts of people using a simple >> > > process of electro-statics to separate hydrogen and oxygen. >> > >> > It's one place where the fraudsters 'advertise'. And also where clueless morons like >> > you congregate patting your own stupid little backs. >> > >> > The 'device' in that car was making a few bubbles of Brown's Gas. Simply not enough to >> > power an engine but enough for a gullible journalist to fall for it. >> >> >> Right. I believe you. I also believe you and a lot of other people >> want people to not make Brown's gas. >> >> Except its too late to stop it. > >No-one's trying to STOP it ! Feel free to waste energy making it. > > >> They use it in welding equipment all over the world. > >For very specific reasons where it makes sense to do so. > > >> This guy from America in that video did not invent that welding >> equipment. Its in common use all over the world. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzJZJjo9MNA > >The fabled 'resonator' method of hydrolysis alleged to use less power than conventional >electrolysis. More 'junk science'. > >Whenever scientifically tested, the claims have been shown to be false. > >Even the originator of this video said he made no measurements ! So, this video shows an >example of the ordinary electrolysis of water. You get less power out than you put in. >That's pretty stupid for a start ! > >Graham > > There is audio in this video. You just have to turn up the vlume a little. In this video, the sheep farmer explains the plates inside a simple device for separating hydrogen and oxygen. He then hooks it up directly to the carbuerator, and then starts the car/van. The think weighs 5 pounds and is contained in an old brown sugar jar so you can see it in action. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSdxEonivNU&mode=related&search= It has water in a jar, and a simple series of plates and a metal mesh around the plates. He attaches the battery to the cell, and when the engine runs, the alternator in the motor, increases its current as it charges your car battery, but that same principal, produces enough gas to fire the motor and to increase the gas production as you accellerate the motor. There you see a car running on water. On a device worth at most 100 bucks, made by a sheep farmer. You could make it recycle the water coming out of the exhaust as some have done. You can easily get 100 mpg on a liter of water. And it is safe because it doesn't store gas. It only produces what it needs. So all this talk abvout how the pentagon and NASA have been studying this for 20 years well maybe they should just fire all their scientists and hire some aussie sheep farmers because they are doing in their garages, what the huge billion dollar budget people can't do. Funding NASA or the pentagon is a waste of money because all they can do is make 15 million dollar toilets and 5 million dollar hammers. Cars like this could be in production in two weeks. If people took the time to install these simple devices. Tested for 30 years and proved safe. And all you have to do is full up your tank with tap water. No pollution. |