The Electric Car
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From: rick_sobie on 27 Sep 2007 03:20 In article <1190872027.066616.315250(a)22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>, ford_prefect42(a)hotmail.com says... > > >On Sep 26, 6:57 pm, rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: >> On Sep 26, 11:48 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: >> > > Yeah this is really difficult to duplicate. It is rocket science. >> > > Someday scientists will study it. >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYNwuLL_pOE >> >> > Scientists have known about electrolysis for a LONG LONG time. >> >> > You get less energy back (as flammable gases) than you put in (as electricity). >> >> > It's a waste of energy. >> >> > Graham >> >> lol Oh yes we believe you. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSdxEonivNU&mode=related&search= > > The second law of thermos guarantees that you will lose energy in >ANY chemical or physical process. > Electricity production from coal is a chemical/physical process >(60% efficient at best) > Electrolysis is a chemical process. (90-95% efficient) > Compression is a physical process (80% efficient) > combustion is a chemical process (30% efficient) > For a fuel to wheels efficiency of 13%. > Burning the fuel directly in the car is 30% efficient. so >it takes more than twice the original btus of fuel to move the car >using electrolyzed hydrogen compared to direct burning. > By comparison, battery storage on the car gives 60% (generation) - >> 90% (storage round trip) -> 90% (motor) for a fuel to wheels of 49%, >or a little more than half the btus of fuel for an ev to move the same >mileage. > And bumble bees cannot fly.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 27 Sep 2007 04:33 Jim Thompson wrote: > > Fellow SED'ers, haven't we played this village idiot about as far as > can be taken? Time to shun. I wonder how many MPT you could get (Miles Per Troll), if you could extract all energy from your average 300 pound idiot? Or is the level so low that it would be measured as TPM? After all, they spend so much time on line proving their ignorance, they HAVE to be covered in layers of body oil and dirt. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
From: Eeyore on 27 Sep 2007 05:21 rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com wrote: > I think that the whole electric car thing is just an attempt to keep > people from demanding hydrogen powered cars. That merely shoes how ignorant / uneducated / gullible / stupid / blinkered you are. Graham
From: Eeyore on 27 Sep 2007 05:23 "rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com" wrote: > And bumble bees cannot fly. No-one ever said that. It's a myth. Graham
From: John Fields on 27 Sep 2007 09:15
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:05:13 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Jamie wrote: > >> Eeyore wrote: >> > Androcles wrote: >> > >> >>Cars are 18% efficient >> > >> > >> > Only in the USA are they that bad. >> > >> > >> There you go again! > >It's TRUE. American cars are notoriously inefficient. --- Got some data? -- JF |