The Electric Car
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From: rick_sobie on 27 Sep 2007 15:18 In article <1190872027.066616.315250(a)22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>, ford_prefect42(a)hotmail.com says... > > >On Sep 26, 6:57 pm, rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: >> On Sep 26, 11:48 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: >> > > Yeah this is really difficult to duplicate. It is rocket science. >> > > Someday scientists will study it. >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYNwuLL_pOE >> >> > Scientists have known about electrolysis for a LONG LONG time. >> >> > You get less energy back (as flammable gases) than you put in (as electricity). >> >> > It's a waste of energy. >> >> > Graham >> >> lol Oh yes we believe you. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSdxEonivNU&mode=related&search= > > The second law of thermos guarantees that you will lose energy in >ANY chemical or physical process. > Electricity production from coal is a chemical/physical process >(60% efficient at best) > Electrolysis is a chemical process. (90-95% efficient) > Compression is a physical process (80% efficient) > combustion is a chemical process (30% efficient) > For a fuel to wheels efficiency of 13%. > Burning the fuel directly in the car is 30% efficient. so >it takes more than twice the original btus of fuel to move the car >using electrolyzed hydrogen compared to direct burning. > By comparison, battery storage on the car gives 60% (generation) - >> 90% (storage round trip) -> 90% (motor) for a fuel to wheels of 49%, >or a little more than half the btus of fuel for an ev to move the same >mileage. > Let me give you an anology, since everyone is always claiming that burning Brown's Gas is somehow like perpetual motion. Well no one says that burning Brown's Gas is anything more than burning gas. And Brown's Gas is merely another state of water, just like if you compress propane you will get liquid propane. So if you take one loaf of bread fresh out of the oven, and you take a giant loaf of bread and compress it into a brick the same size as the first loaf, and the fresh loaf you slice a piece of bread, and the second loaf you scrape the hard bread until you have a pile of bread cumbs of equal weight to the sliced bread, how in your insane mind can you compare apples and oranges and make any claims that the 2nd law has been violated by doing that?
From: rick_sobie on 27 Sep 2007 15:41 In article <pan.2007.09.27.17.30.14.852178(a)example.net>, rich(a)example.net says... > > >On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:20:50 +0000, rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com wrote: >>> >> And bumble bees cannot fly. > >They couldn't if they had fixed wings. But they seem to have learned >a trick - they FLAP them! Imagine your surprise! > >(Hint - a helicopter can't fly if its rotor isn't rotating.) > >If your water-powered car is such a great idea, just build one and >show us! > >Good Luck! >Rich > http://www.fuelfromh2o.com/customtrimlinemaxi.html
From: rick_sobie on 27 Sep 2007 16:03 In article <FHTKi.6012$x%6.3350(a)pd7urf2no>, me(a)my.com says... > > >In article <pan.2007.09.27.17.30.14.852178(a)example.net>, rich(a)example.net >says... >> >> >>On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:20:50 +0000, rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com wrote: >>>> >>> And bumble bees cannot fly. >> >>They couldn't if they had fixed wings. But they seem to have learned >>a trick - they FLAP them! Imagine your surprise! >> >>(Hint - a helicopter can't fly if its rotor isn't rotating.) >> >>If your water-powered car is such a great idea, just build one and >>show us! >> >>Good Luck! >>Rich >> > >http://www.fuelfromh2o.com/customtrimlinemaxi.html > So there you have it, people using it in many many companies all over the world as a fuel enhancement system, and the next step is to just up the production of Brown's Gas by increasing the efficiency, and turn off the gas intake to the carburetor. But since these principles are so simple, and the whole thing so well known, expect hefty law suits, when you sell a bill of goods to a provincial government when they find out you have been lying to them regarding Brown's Gas. Expect fraud charges, expect to be hunted down and prosecuted, expect to lose your jobs for incompetence, etc.
From: Eeyore on 27 Sep 2007 16:06 "rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com" wrote: > And everyone knows, that if you burn HHO or Brown's gas or any of those > products, which is produced on demand, then it is safer, and it makes a million > times more energy available to power the vehicle. Everyone knows no such thing. You're talking NONSENSE. Graham
From: Eeyore on 27 Sep 2007 16:06
"rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com" wrote: > And Brown's Gas is merely another state of water, just like if you compress > propane you will get liquid propane. Complete garbage. You need to learn some SCIENCE. Graham |