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From: Robert Adsett on 28 Sep 2007 00:00 In article <1190870787.912967.249380(a)w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, says... > It makes no sense to make an electric car or truck, when you can run > it on Brown's Gas just put water in that tank, and away you go. Brown's gas is just hydrogen and oxygen generated by electrolysis. It contains less energy than the electricity used to generated and in turn produces less useful energy than is contained within in it. It is a lot more efficient to run a car directly of of electricity than to first convert it to hydrogen and burn it. A car run that way will have a lot less range and/or need more batterries than an EV version. I did an example over optimistic calculation a little while ago. Are there any figures in that, that you contest? Robert -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: Robert Adsett on 28 Sep 2007 00:29 In article <modof3d57dnrh8nqjpiri2r3rao9dcbpna(a)4ax.com>, John Fields says... > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:55:24 +0100, Eeyore > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >It's an 'urban myth' that it was said by scientists who meant it (rather than it > >being a joke). > > --- > That 'urban myth' is of your own design. Unfortunately not. I've seen it used in precisely that fashion many times. Robert -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: Robert Adsett on 28 Sep 2007 00:23 In article <46FC2B48.C71E650E(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore says... > > > "rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com" wrote: > > > You guys are so totally busted right now. > > Bwahahahaahahahaaaa ! > > You just gave me the idea. Let's send this myth to Mythbusters ! Already been done by them. No surprise it was busted. Robert -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: Robert Adsett on 28 Sep 2007 00:37 In article <umTKi.245317$fJ5.77673(a)pd7urf1no>, rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com says... > Let me give you an anology, since everyone is always claiming that burning > Brown's Gas is somehow like perpetual motion. > Well no one says that burning Brown's Gas is anything more than burning gas. > > And Brown's Gas is merely another state of water, Good heavens! > just like if you compress > propane you will get liquid propane. > > So if you take one loaf of bread fresh out of the oven, and you take a giant > loaf of bread and compress it into a brick the same size as the first loaf, and > the fresh loaf you slice a piece of bread, and the second loaf you scrape the > hard bread until you have a pile of bread cumbs of equal weight to the sliced > bread, how in your insane mind can you compare apples and oranges and make any > claims that the 2nd law has been violated by doing that? Lets see water->brown's gas-> (water + energy) See the problem? Robert -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: rick_sobie on 28 Sep 2007 16:42
> And as far as adding anything to the water, like baking soda, don't > add anything to the water. > Use the KISS method (Keep it simple stupid. ) > You want to be able to use pond water, if you are somewhere in the > country, tap water, or any source of water. > You might want to filter the water, to keep your cell clean, and use a > plastic tank, for your water fill up. > People are actually using this same technology to kill germs and > bacteria in water, like waste water, raw sewage, because oxygen kills > bacteria and oxygen is released in the cell. One other thing, if you are worried about rust in your cylinders, you can use a motor additive which improves performance of your car's engine and keeps things well lubricated. I am not going to promote any one product, but I did use Slick 50 in one vehicle and thought it was amazing. Its a Teflon product. But then Quaker State the maker of that product has been sued for making false claims related to that product, and many people say it does more damage than good by plugging up the engine ports and restricting the flow of oil. So you are on your own there in designing a way to offset any possible rust effects to your cylinders. Small aluminum block engines might be a good thing if you are just testing your device, you might want to test it on a small cheap used car like a Fiat or http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2002/03/04/036631.html |