The Electric Car
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From: Eeyore on 27 Sep 2007 21:55 rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > "rick_so...(a)hotmail.com" wrote: > > > And everyone knows, that if you burn HHO or Brown's gas or any of those > > > products, which is produced on demand, then it is safer, and it makes a million > > > times more energy available to power the vehicle. > > > > Everyone knows no such thing. > > > > You're talking NONSENSE. > > > Well its all right there, my fingers are tired from posting so many > videos as anyone can see Videos posted on youtube by scientifically illiterate crackpot garden shed 'inventors' mean NOTHING. Not one of them can provide an equation that shows their magical alleged efficiency. If this idea (a) worked as described and (b) was economic every energy company on the planet would be doing it. Graham
From: Eeyore on 27 Sep 2007 22:10 rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com wrote: > You can take a modified VW chasis and fit it with a nice fiberglass > kit and with a little bondo and a little American know how, fit it > with one of the many HHO or Oxyhydrogen or Brown's Gas kits Which kits ? > and presto, you have a Porscht that runs on aqua fresca. > And gets 100 mpg! > For under 3 grand. Utter nonsonse. Graham
From: rick_sobie on 27 Sep 2007 23:20 On Sep 28, 3:10 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > > You can take a modified VW chasis and fit it with a nice fiberglass > > kit and with a little bondo and a little American know how, fit it > > with one of the many HHO or Oxyhydrogen or Brown's Gas kits > > Which kits ? > > > and presto, you have a Porscht that runs on aqua fresca. > > And gets 100 mpg! > > For under 3 grand. > > Utter nonsonse. > > Graham You think so? Wait and see. Our company motto will be, "Drive a Porscht, goes like stink, cheap like borscht!" But regarding the garden shed inventors who have to carry the ball because the so called scientific establishment lives under the thumb of the corporate elite, oh well, its not the first time that real men had to pick up a screw driver.
From: Eeyore on 28 Sep 2007 00:00 rick_sobie(a)hotmail.com wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > > > You can take a modified VW chasis and fit it with a nice fiberglass > > > kit and with a little bondo and a little American know how, fit it > > > with one of the many HHO or Oxyhydrogen or Brown's Gas kits > > > > Which kits ? > > > > > and presto, you have a Porscht that runs on aqua fresca. > > > And gets 100 mpg! > > > For under 3 grand. > > > > Utter nonsonse. > > > > Graham > > You think so? Wait and see. Our company motto will be, "Drive a > Porscht, goes like stink, cheap like borscht!" Your company is a figment of your imagination. > But regarding the garden shed inventors who have to carry the ball > because the so called scientific establishment lives under the thumb > of the corporate elite, oh well, its not the first time that real men > had to pick up a screw driver. Your garden shed inventors are just uneducated fools in awe of a tiny bit of electrolysis that has them confused. Graham
From: BradGuth on 28 Sep 2007 00:06
I am in fact talking about the very salvation of our environment, as well as conserving as best we can, as to using up the least amount of fossil fuels. I'll agree and/or argue right along with an opening mindset of Eeyore, that a hybrid (much like the GM Volt) is the one and only viable do- everything alternative, as a purely recharged battery alternative simply isn't a good option, not even if our national grids were up to the task (of which our power grids are sadly far from accommodating that kind of added energy demand, much less do we have the kind of electrical cache of mostly fossil derived energy that's anything but sufficiently clean or renewable). However, what part of the power stroke on behalf of a typical four cycle ICE/hybrid is extracting usable energy? Do you think it's ever as much as 50% of that power stroke? Think of all those pesky components going around and around, as well as up and down for no apparent good reason, and continually wearing out. Now think of a clean little radial power only turbine stage that's given the benefit of h2o2 and diesel or best using the much greater energy density per kg worth of low sulphur heating oil, as safely dual injected into a small ceramic combustion chamber, that's basically getting rid of that efficiently created thermal dynamic energy by way of utilizing that radial exhaust power wheel. In a one cycle ICE there's but one active component in motion, and it's directly driving an efficient alternator that's producing a great many of those clean electrons. This radial element of rotational torque also represents a 100% thermal dynamic worthy power stroke per given kinetic energy cycle, thus at minimum offering an 8 fold mechanical improvement over that seriously pathetic four cycle ICE that's puking and flatulating its soot that's saturated with CO2, NOx, plus sharing a good half dozen or more kinds of nasty elements, as well as wearing itself out as it's otherwise wasting much of its thermal dynamic as well as kinetic energy potential in the process, like there's no tomorrow. Even if it were given a two stage radial power conversion of extracting the most from the available thermaldynamics at play, it's still offering a single combined unit of torque output from a one cycle alternative on behalf of a common rotation that's directly driving that alternator, that's producing those squeaky clean electrons. The city and/or commute driving which is 90% or more of what a given Hummer or GM Volt will likely service, is not about the sustained 70 mph long haul which the kind of Eeyore's insurmountable naysayism is insisting upon. Even such long haul applications in America (excluding Texas) are not likely to average over 60 mph, which is a big energy difference if you are driving such an aerobraking brick like Hummer, and especially with those conventional show-off and tell- all macho tires that are often designed in order to make more under- inflated tire road noise than a pair of Harley Hogs. I'm not saying this alternative represents the one and only consumer done-deal, as there are a number of technical issues and product polishing that'll be necessary. But should we wait another centruy, to see if there's any one left alive after WWIII or WWIV that can still manage to drive anything, to/from whatever left standing, other than to ride the gurney they're about to die upon? Of course, if the true underlying motive or hidden agenda of those lost souls like Eeyore is to forever stay the course, and to subsequently contribute as much their ExxonMobil soot, CO2 and NOx plus a dozen other toxic elements into our h2o bloated and otherwise mostly N2 atmosphere, in which case there's not a viable solution in sight, nor will there ever be anything except war upon war over the spendy and somewhat bloody remainders of fossil and yellowcake energy, as well as for the vast amounts of fresh water that's taken on behalf of our badly burning and/or processing such nasty derived energy. Sadly, none of this makes any sense to a true blue all-american infomercial lord of disinformation spewing and/or stay-the-course bigot, that hasn't once in their pathetic life contributed a positive/ constructive thought on behalf of salvaging our badly failing environment, that is unless there's an offshore bank account stuffing process taking place in his/her name, or the names of those within his/ her swarm of naysayism that's usually faith-based Yiddish, if not worse. - Brad Guth - |