The Electric Car
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From: rick_sobie on 28 Sep 2007 00:32 On Sep 28, 5:06 am, BradGuth <bradg...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am in fact talking about the very salvation of our environment, as > well as conserving as best we can, as to using up the least amount of > fossil fuels. > > I'll agree and/or argue right along with an opening mindset of Eeyore, > that a hybrid (much like the GM Volt) is the one and only viable do- > everything alternative, as a purely recharged battery alternative > simply isn't a good option, not even if our national grids were up to > the task (of which our power grids are sadly far from accommodating > that kind of added energy demand, much less do we have the kind of > electrical cache of mostly fossil derived energy that's anything but > sufficiently clean or renewable). > > However, what part of the power stroke on behalf of a typical four > cycle ICE/hybrid is extracting usable energy? > > Do you think it's ever as much as 50% of that power stroke? > > Think of all those pesky components going around and around, as well > as up and down for no apparent good reason, and continually wearing > out. Now think of a clean little radial power only turbine stage > that's given the benefit of h2o2 and diesel or best using the much > greater energy density per kg worth of low sulphur heating oil, as > safely dual injected into a small ceramic combustion chamber, that's > basically getting rid of that efficiently created thermal dynamic > energy by way of utilizing that radial exhaust power wheel. > > In a one cycle ICE there's but one active component in motion, and > it's directly driving an efficient alternator that's producing a great > many of those clean electrons. This radial element of rotational > torque also represents a 100% thermal dynamic worthy power stroke per > given kinetic energy cycle, thus at minimum offering an 8 fold > mechanical improvement over that seriously pathetic four cycle ICE > that's puking and flatulating its soot that's saturated with CO2, NOx, > plus sharing a good half dozen or more kinds of nasty elements, as > well as wearing itself out as it's otherwise wasting much of its > thermal dynamic as well as kinetic energy potential in the process, > like there's no tomorrow. > > Even if it were given a two stage radial power conversion of > extracting the most from the available thermaldynamics at play, it's > still offering a single combined unit of torque output from a one > cycle alternative on behalf of a common rotation that's directly > driving that alternator, that's producing those squeaky clean > electrons. > > The city and/or commute driving which is 90% or more of what a given > Hummer or GM Volt will likely service, is not about the sustained 70 > mph long haul which the kind of Eeyore's insurmountable naysayism is > insisting upon. Even such long haul applications in America > (excluding Texas) are not likely to average over 60 mph, which is a > big energy difference if you are driving such an aerobraking brick > like Hummer, and especially with those conventional show-off and tell- > all macho tires that are often designed in order to make more under- > inflated tire road noise than a pair of Harley Hogs. > > I'm not saying this alternative represents the one and only consumer > done-deal, as there are a number of technical issues and product > polishing that'll be necessary. But should we wait another centruy, > to see if there's any one left alive after WWIII or WWIV that can > still manage to drive anything, to/from whatever left standing, other > than to ride the gurney they're about to die upon? > > Of course, if the true underlying motive or hidden agenda of those > lost souls like Eeyore is to forever stay the course, and to > subsequently contribute as much their ExxonMobil soot, CO2 and NOx > plus a dozen other toxic elements into our h2o bloated and otherwise > mostly N2 atmosphere, in which case there's not a viable solution in > sight, nor will there ever be anything except war upon war over the > spendy and somewhat bloody remainders of fossil and yellowcake energy, > as well as for the vast amounts of fresh water that's taken on behalf > of our badly burning and/or processing such nasty derived energy. > Sadly, none of this makes any sense to a true blue all-american > infomercial lord of disinformation spewing and/or stay-the-course > bigot, that hasn't once in their pathetic life contributed a positive/ > constructive thought on behalf of salvaging our badly failing > environment, that is unless there's an offshore bank account stuffing > process taking place in his/her name, or the names of those within his/ > her swarm of naysayism that's usually faith-based Yiddish, if not > worse. > - Brad Guth - Well the Northwest Passage is open now. http://news.google.ca/news?hl=en&ned=ca&q=northwest+passage&btnG=Search+News Is that a bad thing? I don't know. The weather has to be affecting some people somewhere, even if here, in Victoria on Vancouver Island we have a constant moderate climate. But these things take a long time to heal. There is no easy quick fix and if we are already on the farside of a downhill slide, well then there may be some real nasty weather that no one can do anything about. And that might translate into cyclones, or hurricanes, and droughts and poor crop yields, water shortages, or who knows what. But you don't see any real willingness on behalf of governments to actually tackle the issue. Our little airline yesterday said that they were going carbon neutral! I was wondering what that meant and apparently it means, they will continue to burn fossil fuels but will contribute 100 dollars to save the rainforest. Wonderful. I think people have to mobilize themselves in their own communities and adopt whats available. Get those electric bikes and scooters. They are cheap and fun to drive. Make some conversion kits for Brown's Gas and use them, improve them and start a real grass roots movement that will get noticed. When enough people are driving around on Brown's Gas, the politicians will have to answer the people. The car manufacturers will be forced to answer for their non action. People get together and form antique car clubs all the time. People love to tinker with cars. Well maybe people need to look at getting more serious about running them on Brown's Gas. We know it can be done. A guy in the Philippines has been driving around on it for 30 years. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVhXrvCCILw
From: BradGuth on 28 Sep 2007 00:33 On Sep 27, 6:45 pm, rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > On Sep 27, 9:06 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > "rick_so...(a)hotmail.com" wrote: > > > And everyone knows, that if you burn HHO or Brown's gas or any of those > > > products, which is produced on demand, then it is safer, and it makes a million > > > times more energy available to power the vehicle. > > > Everyone knows no such thing. > > > You're talking NONSENSE. > > > Graham > > Well its all right there, my fingers are tired from posting so many > videos as anyone can see, and kits are already on the market. > We gave the car manufacturers a chance to do the right thing but all > they did was give us the run around. > So we are fed up. We are cutting them out of the loop and going it > alone. > You can take a modified VW chasis and fit it with a nice fiberglass > kit and with a little bondo and a little American know how, fit it > with one of the many HHO or Oxyhydrogen or Brown's Gas kits and > presto, you have a Porscht that runs on aqua fresca. > And gets 100 mpg! > For under 3 grand. > Throw in a paint job, racing stripes, some fat boy tires, dual > smitty's, and you are ready for sunset strip. > And not only that, but with the improved torque, and no need for > polution control devices, you will probably be able to beat the newer > factory Porches right off the line. > 0 to 60 in 4 seconds. http://www.betterbodiesmotorsport.com/body.htm Eeyore is simply a traditional usenet naysaying Yid, as a spook, mole or whatever that's working for and/or on behalf of ExxonMobil, or else working for Hitler's Third Reich. Eeyore is opposed to everything that's not of his idea, and he really doesn't have any such ideas because it's not within the authority of his official job. - Brad Guth -
From: rick_sobie on 28 Sep 2007 01:17 You see you will find that car manufacturers have spent billions of dollars in hydrogen cell development in their cars, and made these futuristic cars and are telling everyone that in 10 or 20 years this will be affordable. Well for one thing, what they are promoting is for you to load up at a hydrogen filling station, so that you can be charged for hydrogen, and taxed on it, when using Brown's Gas, the water is free and there is no tax and it is available today. So this is really nothing more than a huge refusal of the corporate elite to deal with the issue of global warming and to screw people over. And you can fight back. You can fight back because Brown's Gas is easy to make and safe to use and it will run your car today. The kits are there and maybe you could even improve on the efficiency of them. You can buy a used car chassis put a nice body on it, and on a small budget, you can show these people how to do it properly. Imagine how stupid they are going to look, when just dozens of people have made their conversion cars and are driving them around. Is this doable? Damn straight.
From: rick_sobie on 28 Sep 2007 01:26 On Sep 28, 6:17 am, rick_so...(a)hotmail.com wrote: > You see you will find that car manufacturers have spent billions of > dollars in hydrogen cell development in their cars, and made these > futuristic cars and are telling everyone that in 10 or 20 years this > will be affordable. > Well for one thing, what they are promoting is for you to load up at a > hydrogen filling station, so that you can be charged for hydrogen, and > taxed on it, when using Brown's Gas, the water is free and there is no > tax and it is available today. > So this is really nothing more than a huge refusal of the corporate > elite to deal with the issue of global warming and to screw people > over. > And you can fight back. > You can fight back because Brown's Gas is easy to make and safe to use > and it will run your car today. > The kits are there and maybe you could even improve on the efficiency > of them. > You can buy a used car chassis put a nice body on it, and on a small > budget, you can show these people how to do it properly. > Imagine how stupid they are going to look, when just dozens of people > have made their conversion cars and are driving them around. > Is this doable? > Damn straight. Electrolysis, electrostatics, to separate hydrogen and water. Well have you tried using the principles of a Vandegraff generator? All you need is a belt to make a static charge. Like a generator or alternator, only use the static charge to create a small charge on your electrode, that is immersed in your sugar jar, and then attach a fire hose to that sonavbitch and blow flame for 30 feet.
From: me on 28 Sep 2007 01:22
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