From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Per_R=F8nne?= on
James Leo Ryan <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote:

> On 2010-01-30 21:57:57 -0600, Wes Groleau said:
>
> > I'll believe it when I see it. Isn't the thing less then ten inches
> > wide? Every keyboard I use is almost twelve inches from Tab to Return.
>
> The keyboard on my 17" MacBook Pro is 10 3/4 inches wide, reasuring
> from the left of the leftmost key to the right of the rightmost key.

And some of the keys on that keyboard have been removed from the
frontmost keyboard.

But whether it is to small or not is in many ways a matter of how large
you are, and how large your hands are. I'm a small person, 170 cm tall,
with small hands so my major problems with the touch keyboard would be
the lack of physical contact with the keys.

> > I'd like an input method that takes advantage of multi-touch
> > to provide a single row of seven buttons, to function like a
> > Braille-writer, except that it translates the Braille back into English
> > on the fly. Rationale: (1) Braille has a lot of standard abbreviations
> > that allow for unambiguous text in fewer characters; (2) seven 'keys'
> > take up less space than a full keyboard.

Perhaps; I think such software was already developed before iPhone OS
3.0. But again, remember the lack of physical contact with the 'virtual'
keys. With special 'tops' on keys F and J on the QWERTY keyboard.
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From: Steve Hix on
In article <hk2vn4$fko$3(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> Steve Hix wrote:
> > Which makes sense, as you actually touch the target of interest, rather
> > than driving a cursor to it and clicking the mouse or trackpad to
> > simulate a touch.
>
> The implementation, though, means there is no such thing
> as "hover," making a lot of Javascript tricks on web sites non-functional.

New UI paradigms, new ways to deal with them.

A lot of sites are already adapting to handheld devices; they're already
dealing with issues like this, and more.

Fun times.

> Sure, I can vehemently condemn those webmasters on Usenet.
> But that won't make their websites any more accessible.

Not instantly.

But eventually.
From: JF Mezei on
Michelle Steiner wrote:

> But so many people know what the experience will be like, even though they
> haven't had that experience.

This is called intelligence. The ability to visualise an experience
before it happens based on the information of what that experience might
be like.

If you currently use the internet in a certain way, you can try to
visualise how that way would or would not work on that IpAd.

What one cannot predict/visualise is how your usage patterns might
change once you get the device and what sort of new uses you might
develop once you realise what its abilities are.
From: Tom Stiller on
In article <00e0fdf4$0$17126$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>
> > But so many people know what the experience will be like, even though they
> > haven't had that experience.
>
> This is called intelligence. The ability to visualise an experience
> before it happens based on the information of what that experience might
> be like.

"In the year of our Lord 1432, there arose a grievous quarrel among
the brethren over the number of teeth in the mouth of a horse. For 13
days the disputation raged without ceasing...".

You know how it ends.

> If you currently use the internet in a certain way, you can try to
> visualise how that way would or would not work on that IpAd.
>
> What one cannot predict/visualise is how your usage patterns might
> change once you get the device and what sort of new uses you might
> develop once you realise what its abilities are.

--
Tom Stiller

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From: Tom Stiller on
In article <michelle-A439E0.08494531012010(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <tom_stiller-A7BA9A.07281631012010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Tom Stiller <tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > "In the year of our Lord 1432, there arose a grievous quarrel among the
> > brethren over the number of teeth in the mouth of a horse. For 13 days
> > the disputation raged without ceasing...".
>
> Does that mean that horse meat tastes like bacon?

It would be interesting how you got there from a discussion about the
iPad user experience without actually handling it and the parable of
arguing about the number of teeth in a horse's mouth without actually
counting them.

--
Tom Stiller

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