From: nospam on
In article <barmar-22253A.21351229012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> For instance, I searched VersionTracker.com, and couldn't find any OS X
> apps that fart.

it's one of the fastest growing market segments on the iphone. i see an
opportunity there. :)
From: Barry Margolin on
In article <michelle-17C00A.15535629012010(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <290120101728064295%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
> nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > Apple barely breaks even with the Apps store. Apple gets 30% of all
> > > sales
> > > from the app store, and pays the credit card fees out of that money.
> > > That
> > > doesn't leave much left for the overhead in running the store.
> >
> > there's still a lot left for profit. credit card fees are typically
> > 2-3%, the bandwidth costs aren't that high (most apps are tiny,
> > especially the cheap ones)
>
> There's the cost for the servers, the people to write the software for the
> store (I have a friend on that team), test the software, etc., the rent on
> the facilities where the servers are, the air conditioning, electricity,
> etc., the IP staff, the janitors, and so on and so forth.

Most of that stuff is done through a third-party CDN. When you download
stuff from iTunes and the App Store, you're not going to Apple's servers.

Of course, they charge an arm and a leg for the quantity of use that
Apple generates.

--
Barry Margolin, barmar(a)alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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From: JF Mezei on
It takes time to absorb the iPad. (as opposed to a pad absorbing stuff:-)



If the iPad were an OS-X "desktop" device, it would still be Arm based,
and as such couldn't natively run OS_X applications, so it would need
Rosetta like technology to run 8086 binaries, and the 8086 OS-X would
also need a Rosetta like software to run Arm binaries.

Putting the iPaD into the iphone ecosystem, it eliminates any need to
have some sort of application compatibility with desktops and
architecture emulators. (especially since Steve realises that over 80%
of ipad customers may run Windows on their desktop so OS-X compatibility
would only benefit fewer than 20% of customers anyways).

And in the end, while there may be applications for touch screen on
computers (not necessarily desktop, but rather in embedded devices such
as ATMs etc), having ipad and OS_X share application would be a
compromise that would not fully leverage either systems.

But having iPad into the iphone ecosystem, it can benefit from a set of
applications and UI which are built and tuned to fully benefit from a
touch-screen handheld paradigm.

So I can see some logic in Apple's decision to make the iPaD part of the
iphone family of devices.



From: Davoud on
JF Mezei:
> > > I would have much prefered the iPaD to be an OS-X platform with more
> > > compatibility with the deskop.
> >
> > > Right now, the applications for ipad/iphone are incompatible with
> > > desktops.

Davoud:
> > I use both an iPhone and an iPod Touch and a whole bunch of Macs. I
> > have been sharing Excel spreadsheets, Word documents, PDFs, e-books,
> > iCal, Address Book, controlling Mac-based astronomy software from my
> > iPhone/iPod, and doing much interacting between my Macs and my Apple
> > mobile devices. So I don't know what to make of your assertion that
> > applications for iPad/iPhone are "incompatible with desktops."

Barry Margolin:
> He obviously means that iPhone apps don't run on desktops. ...many
> of the thousands of apps that have been uploaded to the Apps Store
> don't have any desktop equivalent.
>
> For instance, I searched VersionTracker.com, and couldn't find any OS X
> apps that fart.

Bummer.

I mean, sure, there are tons of sound editing and heavy-duty music apps
for the Mac, but still, one shouldn't need to be a Mozart and a
recording engineer just to hear the music one loves. Have you check
iTunes and Amazon mp3 downloads?

Davoud

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From: Fred Moore on
In article <1jd3fdp.1hagrf5bzplusN%per(a)RQNNE.invalid>,
per(a)RQNNE.invalid (Per R�nne) wrote:

> Fred Moore <fmoore(a)gcfn.org> wrote:
>
> > In article <tph-94FED4.15403128012010(a)localhost>,
> > Tom Harrington <tph(a)pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <fmoore-8BE3F3.17263128012010(a)feeder.eternal-september.org>,
> > > Fred Moore <fmoore(a)gcfn.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Right, as pointed out by a poster on Macintouch, a mouse doesn't fit the
> > > > nearly cursorless paradigm of the iPad, though I do hold out hope for a
> > > > pen to use with drawing or handwriting apps.
> > >
> > > Wait no longer: <http://tenonedesign.com/stylus.php>
> >
> > Great! Now all we need is a handwriting app
>
> Try "Use Your Handwriting GOLD - Todo, Lists, Notes and Doodles"
>
> Found through the keyword 'handwriting'.

Thanks, Per. I'll give it a look.

> > and a drawing app.
>
> The AppStore has lots and lots of drawing and painting applications.
>
> Personally, I have no use for them.

My hope is that having a handy scratch pad where I can take easy notes
on physical configurations might be very handy. Not looking for anything
fancy.