From: Fred Moore on
In article <michelle-8388ED.11513729012010(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <fmoore-6D9550.12500829012010(a)mail.eternal-september.org>,
> Fred Moore <fmoore(a)gcfn.org> wrote:
>
> > Yet, despite all that, I WANT AN iPAD! It fills a clearly defined niche
> > nearly perfectly.
>
> I want one too, but I don't need one; it doesn't offer enough to warrant
> the price but I want what it does offer. So, do I obey my needs or satisfy
> my wants? As of now, the wants aren't strong enough. But then again, as
> of now, I can't get one anyway.

What?!? This is America! A want IS a need. I want it ALL, and I want it
NOW! ;)

Actually I have the same reservations you do which is why I may wait
till v2. However, my hand keeps trying to reach for my wallet...
From: Fred Moore on
In article <tph-5C583B.14545629012010(a)localhost>,
Tom Harrington <tph(a)pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote:

> In article <fmoore-D3AA8C.13035729012010(a)mail.eternal-september.org>,
> Fred Moore <fmoore(a)gcfn.org> wrote:

> > So if one had access to the root level of the boot 'volume' of an iPhone
> > would we see UNIX directories such as bin, cores, private, and sbin?
> > Would those directories have the full complement of binaries that come
> > with a desktop installation of OS 10?
>
> I don't know, but I wouldn't expect it. Many of the complement of
> binaries in those directories would be entirely irrelevant. And anyway,
> the choice of top-level directories is just a (common) convention, it's
> not what defines the operating system.

Okay, I get it. More the 'database object' construction mentioned
elsewhere with some kind of arbitrary/optimized storage pattern.

> > I remember a previous discussion inquiring how one might run the iPhone
> > apps on a desktop Mac (and this sub-topic reappears elsewhere in this
> > thread). The answer previously was that Apple would have to assemble a
> > new translator/emulator because the iPhone apps were running on
> > non-Intel hardware. Well, hasn't Apple already had to have done this to
> > get OS 10 running on the different iPhone/Touch CPUs?
>
> No, they haven't. The iPhone and related hardware is not emulating
> Intel CPUs. The two CPUs use entirely different binaries, although
> compiled from more-or-less the same source.

D'Oh! Recompiled, of course, why didn't I think of that.

(And thanks also to nospam for your comments. Much appreciated.)
From: Davoud on
Davoud:
> > What is it with people who want things to be what they are not? Apple
> > makes a nice selection of laptop computers. The iPad will not be one of
> > them.

Barry Margolin:
> Apple is promoting this as a great device for email. Unless Twitter has
> reduced your attention span so that you have to say everything in 140
> characters, that requires a decent amount of typing.

What were we talking about? Oh, yeah, Twitter. Don't use it. I'm too
busy doing things to take time to tell the world (as if the world
cared!) about every little thing I do! That could change if I get one
of those fart apps you've awakened me to. I might want to tweet my
farts. "Tweet my farts." It pleases me to imagine that Shakespeare
would have liked that phrase.

> They also hyped iWork's word processor. Would you really want to do any
> significant amount of word processing with the touchscreen keyboard?

At 01:19:56 into the Keynote, Jobs introduced the Keyboard Dock. He
said, inter alia, "...and when you really need to do a lot of typing
this is the way to go. Just keep one of these in your den [and] when
you gotta write, uh, _War_ _and_ _Peace_ just, uh, plug your iPad into
it." (Please see my last paragraph for my view on that.)

Millions have found that the on-screen keyboard on iPhone/iPod Touch is
quite adequate for making notes in the field and typing e-mails and the
like once one gains experience at it. I'm nearly 66 years old and I
cannot type 300 wpm with my thumbs (my 16-year-old niece can, or so it
seems), but I do just fine. The iPad will be incomparably better. I'm
thinking of this coming Monday night, my first board meeting as
secretary of my astronomy club. Will I be able to keep up by typing on
my iPhone or iPod, or will I need to lug a MacBook Pro along? Should I
eschew the electronics and take a pad and pen? I really want something
between the iPhone and the MB Pro. And that is _exactly_ the niche that
the iPad will fill.

> And once you've put the iPad in the keyboard dock, it seems like a mouse
> or trackpad would be more convenient as a pointing device.

I suppose. But that goes back to wanting the iPad to be what it isn't.
Keyboard, upright display, mouse or trackpad. You've described a
MacBook or MacBook Pro. I already have two MB Pro's (and five working
PowerBooks). That's not what I want from the iPad. I want something
more convenient to transport than a MacBook, more powerful than an
iPhone/iPod. The iPad will fit my needs to a tee!

Davoud

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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From: Wes Groleau on
Per Rønne wrote:
> BTW, you do know that originally, a 'computer' was synonymous with a
> 'calculator'?

Meither the etymology of a word nor its literal meaning
have much relevance to its current usage.

--
Wes Groleau

Tracing origins—fascinating
http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett?itemid=1427
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Per_R=F8nne?= on
Fred Moore <fmoore(a)gcfn.org> wrote:

> In article <1jd3fdp.1hagrf5bzplusN%per(a)RQNNE.invalid>,
> per(a)RQNNE.invalid (Per R�nne) wrote:
>
> > Fred Moore <fmoore(a)gcfn.org> wrote:

> > > Great! Now all we need is a handwriting app
> >
> > Try "Use Your Handwriting GOLD - Todo, Lists, Notes and Doodles"
> >
> > Found through the keyword 'handwriting'.
>
> Thanks, Per. I'll give it a look.
>
> > > and a drawing app.
> >
> > The AppStore has lots and lots of drawing and painting applications.
> >
> > Personally, I have no use for them.
>
> My hope is that having a handy scratch pad where I can take easy notes
> on physical configurations might be very handy. Not looking for anything
> fancy.

Then you would probably need a stylo too. Actually, I have seen them on
the net, for iPhone.

And yes, after a little googling I refound them:

<http://www.tenonedesign.com/stylus.php>
--
Per Erik R�nne
http://www.RQNNE.dk
Errare humanum est, sed in errore perseverare turpe