From: nospam on
In article <michelle-3F70AC.23240628012010(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> > My prediction is they won't be able to produce them fast enough!
>
> Has Apple ever been able to produce a new product fast enough?

there was no problem finding a 20th anniversary mac or a cube. they
didn't sell very well until prices were slashed, and in the case of the
20th anniversary mac, by $5000.
From: nospam on
In article <0041b7f5$0$28515$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei
<jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Right now, the applications for ipad/iphone are incompatible with desktops.
>
> Apple already has a iphone emulator for developpers.

no, they have an iphone simulator and it doesn't simulate everything.

iphone apps running in the simulator compile to x86, whereas for the
device they compile to arm. there's also no gps (always comes back as
cupertino), no camera, no accelerometer, no way to get more than 2
touches, no compass and no phone.

> Perhaps this could
> become part of standard OS-X like rosetta so that desktop macs could run
> iphone/ipad applications (with a layer to simulate touch screen with the
> mouse.)

that actually would be *really* nice, since some iphone apps are quite
useful and not needing to fumble with another device would be nice.
From: JF Mezei on
Jolly Roger wrote:

> Then again, those of us who actually *own and use* Apple products know
> it's not at all bothersome for iPhones or iPods, and it won't be
> bothersome at all for the iPad.


An iphone or ipod touch are USB slaves and can only connect to a USB
master (on a desktop).

But the ipad is big enough that one might wish to connect things
(cameras, GPS etc) TO it (aka: ipad as USB master).. Since space is not
an issue, they could have put in a USB master plug on it.

It would be cheaper overall to provide a standard USB master plug in the
unit rather than force someone to the Apple tax a second time to get the
separate adaptor.

I think the hype will now fade and we must await the device becoming
available.

This is definitely something worth a test drive at the Apple place of
worship (Apple store).
From: nospam on
In article <0041be4f$0$28402$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei
<jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:

> It would be cheaper overall to provide a standard USB master plug in the
> unit rather than force someone to the Apple tax a second time to get the
> separate adaptor.

it's cheaper to *not* include it because not everyone is going to want
to connect usb devices to it. those that do can get the adapter. plus,
i'm sure there will be third party adapters for much less.

> This is definitely something worth a test drive at the Apple place of
> worship (Apple store).

absolutely. just leave your wallet at home :)
From: Davoud on
JF Mezei:
> I would have much prefered the iPaD to be an OS-X platform with more
> compatibility with the deskop.

> Right now, the applications for ipad/iphone are incompatible with desktops.

I use both an iPhone and an iPod Touch and a whole bunch of Macs. I
have been sharing Excel spreadsheets, Word documents, PDFs, e-books,
iCal, Address Book, controlling Mac-based astronomy software from my
iPhone/iPod, and doing much interacting between my Macs and my Apple
mobile devices. So I don't know what to make of your assertion that
applications for iPad/iPhone are "incompatible with desktops."

> Having ability to run the mobile apps on the desktop would give OS-X an
> edge over Windows.

My god, man, the cognoscenti realize that the Mac has such a vast
number of advantages over Windows that any particular one is a drop in
the ocean. I don't need to run the same software on my Mac as I run on
my iPhone/iPod (and I will run on my iPad). I need just what I have --
compatible applications (your assertion notwithstanding) and the
ability to share data over the network in both directions.

Davoud

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