lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")
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From: Daniel Baumann on 24 May 2010 14:50 On 05/24/2010 11:29 AM, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > You may want to try extlinux, it works much like LILO in this respect. > It lacks a convenient configuration system, but that of grub-legacy > would be easy to adapt, and I actually plan to work on this. sometime ago i've added extliux-install and update-extlinux. if fits my setups well, however, any other/better ideas how to improve it are very welcome, see #573042 for more information. -- Address: Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: daniel.baumann(a)panthera-systems.net Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BFAC975.1070108(a)debian.org
From: Ferenc Wagner on 24 May 2010 16:00 Stephen Powell <zlinuxman(a)wowway.com> writes: > On Mon, 24 May 2010 13:38:55 -0400 (EDT), Ferenc Wagner wrote: >> Stephen Powell <zlinuxman(a)wowway.com> writes: >>> On Mon, 24 May 2010 05:29:56 -0400 (EDT), Ferenc Wagner wrote: >>>> Stephen Powell <zlinuxman(a)wowway.com> writes: >>>>> Both grub-legacy and grub-pc use sectors on the hard disk outside of >>>>> the master boot record [...] >>>> >>>> You may want to try extlinux, it works much like LILO in this respect. >>> >>> Thanks for the tip. That may be an option. I looked at the documentation >>> online, and there does not appear to be an option equivalent to lilo's >>> vga option, though, which I use a lot, especially since svgatextmode >>> has already been pulled from squeeze. >> >> I'm not sure what you're after, I haven't used LILO for ages. But >> typing vmlinuz-2.6.32 vga=0xf07 at the pxelinux boot prompt gives me a >> 80x60 console. The other variants use the same code. > > Interesting. At one point, the kernel itself had de-supported the > vga boot option, relying on the boot loader to set the video mode > before transferring control to the kernel. And now you're saying > it's back. Hmm. According to Documentation/svga.txt in the kernel > source tree: > > This small document describes the "Video Mode Selection" feature which > allows the use of various special video modes supported by the video BIOS. > Due to usage of the BIOS, the selection is limited to boot time (before > the kernel decompression starts) and works only on 80X86 machines. > > Note the wording "before the kernel decompression starts". That to me > implies "done by the bootloader", because the bootloader decompresses > the kernel (if it is compressed) before transferring control to it, > does it not? It does not, the kernel is sort of a self-decompressing binary. However, the vga= parameter is indeed parsed by the bootloader and passed to the kernel by a special protocol. It's then used before the kernel parses its command line. > I'm going to have to try installing Squeeze using extlinux as the boot > loader. (No doubt I'll have to change bootloaders after installation, > as the Debian Installer won't offer that option.) Yes, you'll have to back out of Grub installation, start a shell, chroot into /target, and install exlinux. Take care to have /boot on an ext2 partition. -- Good luck! Feri. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87iq6dytpl.fsf(a)tac.ki.iif.hu
From: Josselin Mouette on 24 May 2010 16:10 Le dimanche 23 mai 2010 à 20:48 -0400, Stephen Powell a écrit : > I do understand why a Debian package maintainer does not wish to become > "upstream". And I hope that someone who is both willing and able to do > so steps up to the plate. But withdrawing it from the distribution seems > like overkill to me, especially since you want to withdraw it from Squeeze > and not Squeeze+1. Lilo, as it exists today, works just fine for my > purposes. And apparently it works just fine for a lot of other people too. Debian stable releases are not here to serve as a repository for orphaned packages. We are supposed to keep them in shape for the lifetime of the release. > The Lord bless you, William. May His noodly appendage touch you. Ramen, -- .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' âIf you behave this way because you are blackmailed by someone, `- [â¦] I will see what I can do for you.â -- Jörg Schilling
From: Josselin Mouette on 24 May 2010 16:20 Le lundi 24 mai 2010 à 20:46 +0200, Daniel Baumann a écrit : > On 05/24/2010 11:29 AM, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > > You may want to try extlinux, it works much like LILO in this respect. > > It lacks a convenient configuration system, but that of grub-legacy > > would be easy to adapt, and I actually plan to work on this. > > sometime ago i've added extliux-install and update-extlinux. if fits my > setups well, however, any other/better ideas how to improve it are very > welcome, see #573042 for more information. Could this also be eventually added as an alternative to grub2 in the installer? -- .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' âIf you behave this way because you are blackmailed by someone, `- [â¦] I will see what I can do for you.â -- Jörg Schilling
From: Daniel Baumann on 24 May 2010 16:20
On 05/24/2010 10:07 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Could this also be eventually added as an alternative to grub2 in the > installer? i've talked with otavio about this already a year ago, as i'm much in favour[0] of extlinux over grub2 anyway, but i didn't got arround to finally push it. if anyone has time before debconf/debcamp, that would be great. otherwise, i hope to have a look together with otavio at debconf/debcamp (if he accepts my bribes with chocolate :). [0] http://blog.daniel-baumann.ch/2009/11/30#20091130_extlinux-as-alternative-bootloader -- Address: Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: daniel.baumann(a)panthera-systems.net Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BFADEE4.5080709(a)debian.org |