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From: Jim Thompson on 20 May 2010 15:27 On Thu, 20 May 2010 15:17:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >Joerg wrote: >> >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> > Joerg wrote: >> >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> >>> We already know that you use more electricity than I do. >> >>> >> >> Read it again. I said we run pool pumps. Have to, because the pool was >> >> here when we bought the house. Then perimeter lighting etc. You need to >> >> compare apples to apples here. >> > >> > >> > No, you could drain the pool and not use it. You could fill in the >> > hole, to give the dogs more room to play. It's your choice to have a >> > pool, just like it's mine to consolidate my driver collection to a >> > server, and use it to learn the software needed to run a server. It is >> > a tool that you choose not to learn how to use. I don't plan to stop >> > learning, till I'm dead. >> > >> >> You haven't been up here. It would cost a huge amount of money to get >> this much dirt up there. Realistically only by bucket and crane, costly >> permit to block the street way below, and so on. Plus I'd instantly >> destroy 10-20% of the home's market value. That would not be a very >> smart thing to do, no ROI to be had. > > > That doesn't stop you from draining it, and putting a cover over it. Probably the same thing that happens in Florida when you leave it drained... the water table pushes it out of the ground. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | The only thing bipartisan in this country is hypocrisy
From: Joerg on 20 May 2010 17:31 Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Joerg wrote: >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>> Joerg wrote: >>>> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> [...] >> >>>>> We already know that you use more electricity than I do. >>>>> >>>> Read it again. I said we run pool pumps. Have to, because the pool was >>>> here when we bought the house. Then perimeter lighting etc. You need to >>>> compare apples to apples here. >>> >>> No, you could drain the pool and not use it. You could fill in the >>> hole, to give the dogs more room to play. It's your choice to have a >>> pool, just like it's mine to consolidate my driver collection to a >>> server, and use it to learn the software needed to run a server. It is >>> a tool that you choose not to learn how to use. I don't plan to stop >>> learning, till I'm dead. >>> >> You haven't been up here. It would cost a huge amount of money to get >> this much dirt up there. Realistically only by bucket and crane, costly >> permit to block the street way below, and so on. Plus I'd instantly >> destroy 10-20% of the home's market value. That would not be a very >> smart thing to do, no ROI to be had. > > > That doesn't stop you from draining it, and putting a cover over it. > And somebody falling in an me being sued. Oh yeah ... This pool is huge, and anything that remotely resembles a cover goes flying out here. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Joerg on 20 May 2010 17:32 Jim Thompson wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 2010 15:17:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Joerg wrote: >>> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>>> Joerg wrote: >>>>> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>> [...] >>> >>>>>> We already know that you use more electricity than I do. >>>>>> >>>>> Read it again. I said we run pool pumps. Have to, because the pool was >>>>> here when we bought the house. Then perimeter lighting etc. You need to >>>>> compare apples to apples here. >>>> >>>> No, you could drain the pool and not use it. You could fill in the >>>> hole, to give the dogs more room to play. It's your choice to have a >>>> pool, just like it's mine to consolidate my driver collection to a >>>> server, and use it to learn the software needed to run a server. It is >>>> a tool that you choose not to learn how to use. I don't plan to stop >>>> learning, till I'm dead. >>>> >>> You haven't been up here. It would cost a huge amount of money to get >>> this much dirt up there. Realistically only by bucket and crane, costly >>> permit to block the street way below, and so on. Plus I'd instantly >>> destroy 10-20% of the home's market value. That would not be a very >>> smart thing to do, no ROI to be had. >> >> That doesn't stop you from draining it, and putting a cover over it. > > Probably the same thing that happens in Florida when you leave it > drained... the water table pushes it out of the ground. > Yup. Although not ours, its on bedrock. Had to be blasted. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: krw on 20 May 2010 23:58 On Wed, 19 May 2010 15:38:31 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >> On Wed, 19 May 2010 06:32:57 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> > >[...] > >>> The best sort of mentoring is what some volunteer IEEE members do in >>> South America. There, lots of people die from lung diseases because they >>> read using kerosine lamps at night. So they install a few >>> solar-battery-LED thingamagics in the first 2-3 huts while some of the >>> more clever villagers look at how the work is done. Then, they hand the >>> toolbox and the materials for the next dozen huts to the villagers. >> >> But without food and clean water, reading is a luxury. > > >Oh, they do have that. Even cerveza, or probably chicha (in Quechua). >Those people have lived there and farmed that sparse and rough terrain >for hundreds of year, but now they want to afford their kids some >education (or maybe have to). They really eke out a meager living, far >from what we are used to. The son of a couple from our church was down >there on a long term technical mission, building stuff etc. He said the >utmost in delicatessen when there is a really important feast was cooked >chicken feet. He really had to get used to some things there. > >It's just that there is no electricity within whole swaths of >countryside. Not one lone powerline crossing the mountain ranges. So >those smoke-belching lanterns are their only affordable option. Then these aren't the people (I think) JKK was talking about when he said: "Propping up overpopulation (more than the relevant economy can provide for) strikes me as an error, and poor ethics." They seem to be surviving fine.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 21 May 2010 00:28
Jim Thompson wrote: > > On Thu, 20 May 2010 15:17:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > >Joerg wrote: > >> > >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >> > Joerg wrote: > >> >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> >>> We already know that you use more electricity than I do. > >> >>> > >> >> Read it again. I said we run pool pumps. Have to, because the pool was > >> >> here when we bought the house. Then perimeter lighting etc. You need to > >> >> compare apples to apples here. > >> > > >> > > >> > No, you could drain the pool and not use it. You could fill in the > >> > hole, to give the dogs more room to play. It's your choice to have a > >> > pool, just like it's mine to consolidate my driver collection to a > >> > server, and use it to learn the software needed to run a server. It is > >> > a tool that you choose not to learn how to use. I don't plan to stop > >> > learning, till I'm dead. > >> > > >> > >> You haven't been up here. It would cost a huge amount of money to get > >> this much dirt up there. Realistically only by bucket and crane, costly > >> permit to block the street way below, and so on. Plus I'd instantly > >> destroy 10-20% of the home's market value. That would not be a very > >> smart thing to do, no ROI to be had. > > > > > > That doesn't stop you from draining it, and putting a cover over it. > > Probably the same thing that happens in Florida when you leave it > drained... the water table pushes it out of the ground. Heh. Why do you think most pools are ABOVE ground around here? That, and hurricanes. It takes too long to drain a below ground pool to prep it for a hurricane. :) -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |