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From: Michael A. Terrell on 21 May 2010 00:29 Joerg wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Joerg wrote: > >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >>> Joerg wrote: > >>>> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >> [...] > >> > >>>>> We already know that you use more electricity than I do. > >>>>> > >>>> Read it again. I said we run pool pumps. Have to, because the pool was > >>>> here when we bought the house. Then perimeter lighting etc. You need to > >>>> compare apples to apples here. > >>> > >>> No, you could drain the pool and not use it. You could fill in the > >>> hole, to give the dogs more room to play. It's your choice to have a > >>> pool, just like it's mine to consolidate my driver collection to a > >>> server, and use it to learn the software needed to run a server. It is > >>> a tool that you choose not to learn how to use. I don't plan to stop > >>> learning, till I'm dead. > >>> > >> You haven't been up here. It would cost a huge amount of money to get > >> this much dirt up there. Realistically only by bucket and crane, costly > >> permit to block the street way below, and so on. Plus I'd instantly > >> destroy 10-20% of the home's market value. That would not be a very > >> smart thing to do, no ROI to be had. > > > > > > That doesn't stop you from draining it, and putting a cover over it. > > > > And somebody falling in an me being sued. Oh yeah ... > > This pool is huge, and anything that remotely resembles a cover goes > flying out here. Interesting. The covers I've seen can be walked on, right across a pool. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
From: Joerg on 21 May 2010 11:01 Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Jim Thompson wrote: >> On Thu, 20 May 2010 15:17:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> Joerg wrote: >>>> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>>>> Joerg wrote: >>>>>> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>>> [...] >>>> >>>>>>> We already know that you use more electricity than I do. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Read it again. I said we run pool pumps. Have to, because the pool was >>>>>> here when we bought the house. Then perimeter lighting etc. You need to >>>>>> compare apples to apples here. >>>>> >>>>> No, you could drain the pool and not use it. You could fill in the >>>>> hole, to give the dogs more room to play. It's your choice to have a >>>>> pool, just like it's mine to consolidate my driver collection to a >>>>> server, and use it to learn the software needed to run a server. It is >>>>> a tool that you choose not to learn how to use. I don't plan to stop >>>>> learning, till I'm dead. >>>>> >>>> You haven't been up here. It would cost a huge amount of money to get >>>> this much dirt up there. Realistically only by bucket and crane, costly >>>> permit to block the street way below, and so on. Plus I'd instantly >>>> destroy 10-20% of the home's market value. That would not be a very >>>> smart thing to do, no ROI to be had. >>> >>> That doesn't stop you from draining it, and putting a cover over it. >> Probably the same thing that happens in Florida when you leave it >> drained... the water table pushes it out of the ground. > > > Heh. Why do you think most pools are ABOVE ground around here? > That, and hurricanes. It takes too long to drain a below ground pool to > prep it for a hurricane. :) > Why would you drain it for hurricane preparation? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Joerg on 21 May 2010 11:03 Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Joerg wrote: >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>> Joerg wrote: >>>> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>>>> Joerg wrote: >>>>>> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>>> [...] >>>> >>>>>>> We already know that you use more electricity than I do. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Read it again. I said we run pool pumps. Have to, because the pool was >>>>>> here when we bought the house. Then perimeter lighting etc. You need to >>>>>> compare apples to apples here. >>>>> No, you could drain the pool and not use it. You could fill in the >>>>> hole, to give the dogs more room to play. It's your choice to have a >>>>> pool, just like it's mine to consolidate my driver collection to a >>>>> server, and use it to learn the software needed to run a server. It is >>>>> a tool that you choose not to learn how to use. I don't plan to stop >>>>> learning, till I'm dead. >>>>> >>>> You haven't been up here. It would cost a huge amount of money to get >>>> this much dirt up there. Realistically only by bucket and crane, costly >>>> permit to block the street way below, and so on. Plus I'd instantly >>>> destroy 10-20% of the home's market value. That would not be a very >>>> smart thing to do, no ROI to be had. >>> >>> That doesn't stop you from draining it, and putting a cover over it. >>> >> And somebody falling in an me being sued. Oh yeah ... >> >> This pool is huge, and anything that remotely resembles a cover goes >> flying out here. > > > Interesting. The covers I've seen can be walked on, right across a > pool. > You haven't seen our pool yet. It's freeform and huge: http://www.analogconsultants.com/ng/images/offview.jpg -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Joerg on 21 May 2010 11:11 krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: > On Wed, 19 May 2010 15:38:31 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>> On Wed, 19 May 2010 06:32:57 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >> [...] >> >>>> The best sort of mentoring is what some volunteer IEEE members do in >>>> South America. There, lots of people die from lung diseases because they >>>> read using kerosine lamps at night. So they install a few >>>> solar-battery-LED thingamagics in the first 2-3 huts while some of the >>>> more clever villagers look at how the work is done. Then, they hand the >>>> toolbox and the materials for the next dozen huts to the villagers. >>> But without food and clean water, reading is a luxury. >> >> Oh, they do have that. Even cerveza, or probably chicha (in Quechua). >> Those people have lived there and farmed that sparse and rough terrain >> for hundreds of year, but now they want to afford their kids some >> education (or maybe have to). They really eke out a meager living, far >>from what we are used to. The son of a couple from our church was down >> there on a long term technical mission, building stuff etc. He said the >> utmost in delicatessen when there is a really important feast was cooked >> chicken feet. He really had to get used to some things there. >> >> It's just that there is no electricity within whole swaths of >> countryside. Not one lone powerline crossing the mountain ranges. So >> those smoke-belching lanterns are their only affordable option. > > Then these aren't the people (I think) JKK was talking about when he said: > > "Propping up overpopulation (more than the relevant economy can provide > for) strikes me as an error, and poor ethics." > > They seem to be surviving fine. People could, almost everywhere in the world. The main problems are unmanaged diseases (like HIV), poorly managed irrigation and farming, lack of education, socialist dictators, but foremost hardcore government corruption where 90+ percent of the population starve while a few percent live high on the hog. Plus, more lately, fundamentalists. Sometimes very small changes in one of the above can work wonders. You just can't fix a whole country. Our church, for example, concentrates on a small area in Kenia (called Kabimoi) and slowly people over there realize that there is indeed hope. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: krw on 21 May 2010 18:56
On Fri, 21 May 2010 08:03:23 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> Joerg wrote: >>> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>>> Joerg wrote: >>>>> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>>>>> Joerg wrote: >>>>>>> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>>>>> We already know that you use more electricity than I do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Read it again. I said we run pool pumps. Have to, because the pool was >>>>>>> here when we bought the house. Then perimeter lighting etc. You need to >>>>>>> compare apples to apples here. >>>>>> No, you could drain the pool and not use it. You could fill in the >>>>>> hole, to give the dogs more room to play. It's your choice to have a >>>>>> pool, just like it's mine to consolidate my driver collection to a >>>>>> server, and use it to learn the software needed to run a server. It is >>>>>> a tool that you choose not to learn how to use. I don't plan to stop >>>>>> learning, till I'm dead. >>>>>> >>>>> You haven't been up here. It would cost a huge amount of money to get >>>>> this much dirt up there. Realistically only by bucket and crane, costly >>>>> permit to block the street way below, and so on. Plus I'd instantly >>>>> destroy 10-20% of the home's market value. That would not be a very >>>>> smart thing to do, no ROI to be had. >>>> >>>> That doesn't stop you from draining it, and putting a cover over it. >>>> >>> And somebody falling in an me being sued. Oh yeah ... >>> >>> This pool is huge, and anything that remotely resembles a cover goes >>> flying out here. >> >> >> Interesting. The covers I've seen can be walked on, right across a >> pool. >> > >You haven't seen our pool yet. It's freeform and huge: > >http://www.analogconsultants.com/ng/images/offview.jpg Very nice! BTW, you can walk on most covers, even the ones held in place with water bags. It's not recommended, though, because if you do go in the cover will close in around you. I certainly didn't attempt fate. |