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From: RogerN on 2 May 2010 15:31 "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.2646e31c417ba29f989813(a)209.197.12.12... > In article <apKdnZLpD9d5YknWnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, > regor(a)midwest.net says... >> > Are you saying that that approx 2 million US prison inmates are mostly >> > atheists or phony Christians? >> >> I haven't taken a poll of prisoners but I would say that unless they are >> in >> prison for spreading the gospel, like Apostle Paul was often in prison >> for, >> then they are not in prison for being a follower of Christ. A Christian >> is >> supposed to be a follower of Christ, not someone that went to Sunday >> School >> a few times growing up. >> >> > Christian engineers are ridiculous in that a reason to be good is to >> > get >> > the afterlife. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > D from BC >> > British Columbia >> >> Thought perhaps you would want to tell us in what way you see yourself >> superior to these: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science >> >> RogerN >> > > None of them can provide a good reason as to why to believe in a God. > If it's to get the afterlife, then... > None of them can provide a good reason as to why there's an afterlife. > > > -- > D from BC > British Columbia There are different reasons that influence people to believe in God. For some it is because they have been told that since they were young. Others have seen or experienced miracles that convince them. Others simply deny all evidence and tell themselves that there is no evidence. RogerN
From: Jon Kirwan on 2 May 2010 15:39 On Sun, 02 May 2010 11:18:55 -0700, wrote: >On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:41:32 -0500, "RogerN" ><regor(a)midwest.net> wrote: > >> >>"Jon Kirwan" <jonk(a)infinitefactors.org> wrote in message >>news:ns9kt55act19rtgb10o76io872pgiame4o(a)4ax.com... >>> And I still wonder if you understand the hard path being >>> asked by Jesus. >>> >>> Do you? >>> >>> Jon >> >>Quite frankly I'm not sure your understanding is one bit better than Jim >>Jones's. ><snip of long apology for not doing what Jesus asked of those who follow> Well, that analogy is obviously incorrect on its face. In no way am I suggesting anything that doesn't come straight from Jesus in scripture. I'm just asking you to actually consider Jesus' words, carefully and thoughtfully. If you do, it's pretty clear what he is asking of those who choose to follow him. And to make the point clearer, ALL of the early Christians actually _did_ understand his words and _knew_ what was being asked of them and _performed_ accordingly, in action and deed. We have ample evidence of that. What _you_ have lost is the ability to hear him, anymore. >>But I am curious, is your wife a real Christian or a false Christian? You just pile one aspersion after another, don't you? When was the last time you beat your wife? Now, go back and READ what Jesus asked _you_ to do. The Christians closer to Jesus knew. Apparently, you've lost the ability now to understand what they understood. I'm merely asking you to regain the hearing you've lost. That's all. You are deaf to Jesus, it seems. Jon
From: D from BC on 2 May 2010 16:07 In article <erKdnZV_g-fxq0nWnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, regor(a)midwest.net says... > One thing you seem to overlook is that God's kingdom is Heaven, not Earth. So..God does nothing on earth and is just an afterlife coordinator. > As far as I know there are no sicknesses, diseases, or disabilities in > Heaven and I haven't heard of anyone needing prayer in Heaven. Perhaps you > think life on earth is supposed to be Heaven? > > RogerN > If you focus on the afterlife, then earth becomes hell. The Christian afterlife is better than earth. The Christian afterlife is a utopia compared to earth. The earth is a deficient creation relative to heaven and therefore is a form of hell created by God. Earth is hell due to being worse than heaven. Evidence to support that earth is hell is the presence of disease, suffering, war, famine, crime, terrorism, threat of asteroid strike and looming death due to aging. EArth is God's hell 2.0. It was 1.0 when God made all suffer with asphyxia. (The flood). Christian engineers are ridiculous in believing in an afterlife so that death is a happy event. Bring balloons for when someone dies. It's happy death day. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: RogerN on 2 May 2010 19:28 "Jon Kirwan" <jonk(a)infinitefactors.org> wrote in message news:vqkrt5hp21t0bo2ot2qt6pf9qfkiuetvf3(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 02 May 2010 11:18:55 -0700, wrote: > >>On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:41:32 -0500, "RogerN" >><regor(a)midwest.net> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Jon Kirwan" <jonk(a)infinitefactors.org> wrote in message >>>news:ns9kt55act19rtgb10o76io872pgiame4o(a)4ax.com... >>>> And I still wonder if you understand the hard path being >>>> asked by Jesus. >>>> >>>> Do you? >>>> >>>> Jon >>> >>>Quite frankly I'm not sure your understanding is one bit better than Jim >>>Jones's. >><snip of long apology for not doing what Jesus asked of those who follow> > > Well, that analogy is obviously incorrect on its face. > > In no way am I suggesting anything that doesn't come straight > from Jesus in scripture. I'm just asking you to actually > consider Jesus' words, carefully and thoughtfully. If you > do, it's pretty clear what he is asking of those who choose > to follow him. > > And to make the point clearer, ALL of the early Christians > actually _did_ understand his words and _knew_ what was being > asked of them and _performed_ accordingly, in action and > deed. We have ample evidence of that. > > What _you_ have lost is the ability to hear him, anymore. > >>>But I am curious, is your wife a real Christian or a false Christian? > > You just pile one aspersion after another, don't you? > > When was the last time you beat your wife? > > Now, go back and READ what Jesus asked _you_ to do. The > Christians closer to Jesus knew. Apparently, you've lost the > ability now to understand what they understood. I'm merely > asking you to regain the hearing you've lost. That's all. > You are deaf to Jesus, it seems. > > Jon OK, any recommendations of amputating my hands and plucking out my eyes? But now I own the property that my retired mother and crippled father live. Would Jesus want me to kick my parents out on the street and sell? This year I have sold my backhoe, truck, and boat, will be selling more of my possessions soon but it takes time. But with no hands or eyes I'll no longer be able to help the poor and I'll become a burden on society. RogerN
From: hamilton on 3 May 2010 00:16
D from BC, Its seems you may be confusing God with Christians. American Christians are a small part of the entire world of Christians. How many Christian followers are there worldwide? There are approximately 2.1 billion Christians worldwide, making it the most popular religion in the world. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_Christian_followers_are_there_worldwide If you take how many people follow Christianity: How many people follow Christianity? Quite a bit of people, but not a lot of people as many people follow Islam. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_follow_Christianity And divided the number of Christians world wide by the number of Christian in the USA: How many Christian are in the USA ? ~160 Million Top Twenty Religions in the United States, 2001 http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#religions 160M / 2100M = 0.076190476190476190476190476190476 So American Christians are less then 8% of the world wide Christians. And we all know that Americans Christians are a political party. The number of people that follow a "god" without being Christian is almost 1000 to 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups Please adjust your rants to American Christians, God IS NOT with American Christians. American Christian are with American Christians. hamilton |