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From: D from BC on 1 May 2010 02:34 In article <ecbjt55v9der151f38dclt8e7plfli3uvn(a)4ax.com>, jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... > >Praying is an admission that you don't believe God is omniscient. > >An omniscient God is fully aware of your situation and can figure out > >what you'd pray. Even if you resisted praying, God would know what you'd > >pray. > > --- > Since, having given us free will, God won't know what we'll do from > instant to instant, that knowledge won't be available to a totally > omniscient entity. YOu made a contradiction. If there is an exception to God's omniscience then God is not omniscient. Free will does not have special power over God's omniscience. There's nothing more powerful than God. If free will blocks God's omniscience then God is not all powerful and not omniscient. > > However, since God exists outside of time, He can know the > _consequences_ of our actions, all the way to the end, as we walk our > serpentine trails. > --- There is no reason to pray. God is fully aware of everything and can figure out what you'd pray. God is fully aware of your needs/wants/desires/wishes. Your praying is like calling God stupid. God may punish you cause your praying is disrespecting God's omnipresence and superior intellect. God does whatever he wants and yields to no human. 'I wish..I want..I need..' are tools to make God do something. God is not a puppet operated by prayer. God may punish you for disrespecting God's will and disrespecting God's plan. Nobody controls God and certainly not by any tool such as prayer. Don't pray..God knows already. If you do pray, God might punish you. Pray at your own risk. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: RogerN on 1 May 2010 11:24 "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.26456b2cc53ceb7c98980e(a)209.197.12.12... > In article <ecbjt55v9der151f38dclt8e7plfli3uvn(a)4ax.com>, > jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... >> >Praying is an admission that you don't believe God is omniscient. >> >An omniscient God is fully aware of your situation and can figure out >> >what you'd pray. Even if you resisted praying, God would know what you'd >> >pray. >> >> --- >> Since, having given us free will, God won't know what we'll do from >> instant to instant, that knowledge won't be available to a totally >> omniscient entity. > > YOu made a contradiction. > If there is an exception to God's omniscience then God is not > omniscient. > Free will does not have special power over God's omniscience. > There's nothing more powerful than God. > If free will blocks God's omniscience then God is not all powerful and > not omniscient. > >> >> However, since God exists outside of time, He can know the >> _consequences_ of our actions, all the way to the end, as we walk our >> serpentine trails. >> --- > > There is no reason to pray. Wrong > God is fully aware of everything and can figure out what you'd pray. > God is fully aware of your needs/wants/desires/wishes. Right Matthew 6: 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. 9"This, then, is how you should pray: " 'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, 10your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. 11Give us today our daily bread. 12Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. 14For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins. > Your praying is like calling God stupid. > God may punish you cause your praying is disrespecting God's > omnipresence and superior intellect. > God does whatever he wants and yields to no human. > 'I wish..I want..I need..' are tools to make God do something. > God is not a puppet operated by prayer. > God may punish you for disrespecting God's will and disrespecting God's > plan. > Nobody controls God and certainly not by any tool such as prayer. > > Don't pray..God knows already. > If you do pray, God might punish you. > Pray at your own risk. > > > -- > D from BC > British Columbia
From: krw on 1 May 2010 21:11 On Sat, 1 May 2010 17:04:27 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: >2) The bible is male a dominated testosterone charged book. Ah, now we see why you're so afraid of religion. You've run away from testosterone your whole life.
From: D from BC on 2 May 2010 05:17 In article <apKdnZLpD9d5YknWnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, regor(a)midwest.net says... > > Are you saying that that approx 2 million US prison inmates are mostly > > atheists or phony Christians? > > I haven't taken a poll of prisoners but I would say that unless they are in > prison for spreading the gospel, like Apostle Paul was often in prison for, > then they are not in prison for being a follower of Christ. A Christian is > supposed to be a follower of Christ, not someone that went to Sunday School > a few times growing up. > > > Christian engineers are ridiculous in that a reason to be good is to get > > the afterlife. > > > > > > -- > > D from BC > > British Columbia > > Thought perhaps you would want to tell us in what way you see yourself > superior to these: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science > > RogerN > None of them can provide a good reason as to why to believe in a God. If it's to get the afterlife, then... None of them can provide a good reason as to why there's an afterlife. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: John Fields on 2 May 2010 11:14
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 23:34:04 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: >In article <ecbjt55v9der151f38dclt8e7plfli3uvn(a)4ax.com>, >jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... >> >Praying is an admission that you don't believe God is omniscient. --- Nope, it's an admission that you can't get what you want by yourself and you're asking for help. --- >> >An omniscient God is fully aware of your situation and can figure out >> >what you'd pray. Even if you resisted praying, God would know what you'd >> >pray. --- Nope. By giving us free will, God has released us from being automatons and has allowed us to choose which way we choose to live our lives and which favors we ask for. --- >> Since, having given us free will, God won't know what we'll do from >> instant to instant, that knowledge won't be available to a totally >> omniscient entity. > >YOu made a contradiction. >If there is an exception to God's omniscience then God is not >omniscient. --- Not true, since in _choosing_ not to be omniscient God still rules. --- >Free will does not have special power over God's omniscience. --- No, but God does. --- >There's nothing more powerful than God. --- Indeed. --- >If free will blocks God's omniscience then God is not all powerful and >not omniscient. --- If God chooses to allow free will to block His omniscience then why isn't He all powerful? --- >> However, since God exists outside of time, He can know the >> _consequences_ of our actions, all the way to the end, as we walk our >> serpentine trails. >> --- > >There is no reason to pray. --- Sure there is. From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer "Prayer is a form of religious practice that seeks to activate a volitional connection to some greater power in the universe through deliberate practice" --- >God is fully aware of everything and can figure out what you'd pray. --- Then we don't have free will. --- >God is fully aware of your needs/wants/desires/wishes. --- http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6&version=KJV --- >Your praying is like calling God stupid. --- No, it's like calling God. --- >God may punish you cause your praying is disrespecting God's >omnipresence and superior intellect. --- http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6&version=KJV --- >God does whatever he wants and yields to no human. >'I wish..I want..I need..' are tools to make God do something. --- No, prayers are a way to thank God for what he's given us and to ask for what we can't get for ourselves; remission of cancer in someone we love, for instance. --- >God is not a puppet operated by prayer. >God may punish you for disrespecting God's will and disrespecting God's >plan. >Nobody controls God and certainly not by any tool such as prayer. > >Don't pray..God knows already. >If you do pray, God might punish you. >Pray at your own risk. --- You certainly don't seem to be a happy man, what with all the hate and vitriol you spew, and since you say you don't believe in God it seems to me that when you find people who _are_ theists and are happy, you try to shake their faith and tear that happiness away by casting them as fools. Why? Does misery really love company? JF |