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From: Archimedes' Lever on 29 Apr 2010 21:22 On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:18:14 -0500, "RogerN" <regor(a)midwest.net> wrote: > >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >news:3vegt5lspc4qpfhluq51tjkuekibg6gj4m(a)4ax.com... >> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 20:18:02 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> >> wrote: >> >>>In article <omidt5tdtas4e25ci423nuocjbkj9d5ine(a)4ax.com>, >>>jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... >>>> >>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:04:30 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >In article <rag9t5h3isj0qsqqs9j2sfsvavj8t8io4g(a)4ax.com>, >>>> >jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... >>>> >> >>>> >> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 21:13:14 -0700, D from BC >>>> >> <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> >In article <mtOdnYAbK4_GdE_WnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, >>>> >> >regor(a)midwest.net says... >>>> >> >> But from your perspective death is the end, from God's perspective >>>> >> >> death is >>>> >> >> no more serious than a runny nose. What is the ratio of someone >>>> >> >living 5 >>>> >> >> days compared to infinity versus 100 years compared to infinity? >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> RogerN >>>> >> >> >>>> >> > >>>> >> >That idea devalues earth life and increases the value of the >>>> >> >afterlife. >>>> >> >That might encourage Christians to just wait/long or look forward to >>>> >> >dying due to be being momentarily inconvenienced on earth by God. >>>> >> >>>> >> --- >>>> >> And once you've done _your_ time here, what do you have to look >>>> >> forward >>>> >> to? >>>> >> >>>> >> JF >>>> > >>>> >To being on earth. >>>> >The molecules in my cells look forward to be free to go their separate >>>> >ways. >>>> >60% of the water vapor from my body looks forward to blowing in the >>>> >wind. Some of it may become rain, some of it may become drinking water >>>> >and some of it may feed plants. >>>> >The ammonia,carbon,salt,phosphorus and calcium in my body/brain look >>>> >forward to taking part again in the ecology. >>>> >I am of the earth and for the earth. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> That's how God has set things up; read Genesis 3:19 >>> >>>But that's not all. >>>A not scientifically supported soul magically goes to a not >>>scientifically supported dimension occupied by a not scientifically >>>supported alien with super powers. >> >> --- >> Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. >> >> Arthur C. Clarke >> --- >> >>>> But what about your fire? >>>> >>>> JF >>> >>>When some of the molecules I once used become part of a tree used for >>>firewood. >> >> --- >> Cheater. >> >> JF > >That will probably be the closest he'll ever get to electronics designer, if >an electronics designer roasts marshmallows on the fire he was made into >wood for! > >RogerN > Marshmallows become ash too, ya know.
From: D from BC on 30 Apr 2010 00:47 In article <K_Odnci2rLcXi0fWnZ2dnUVZ_hednZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, regor(a)midwest.net says... > > "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.2642c3681ed53dfb989805(a)209.197.12.12... > > In article <4_qdnd_4z4BLI0XWnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, > > regor(a)midwest.net says... > >> One thing we do know about God is that he can not lie. See if DfromBC > >> can > >> understand the book of Esther and see where a God that cannot lie fits > >> in. > >> > >> RogerN > >> > >> > > > > Genesis chapter 11:26 to 25:10. > > 'Some time after the birth of Isaac, Abraham was commanded by God to > > offer his son up as a sacrifice in the land of Moriah. > > Just as Abraham was about to sacrifice his son, he was prevented by an > > angel, and given on that spot a ram which he sacrificed in place of his > > son.' > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham > > > So, God asks Abraham to give his son's life, this sounds strangely familiar. > And Abraham believes that if he gives his son's life, that his son will be > raised from the dead, something familiar there too. But Abrahams said God > would provide the sacrifice, I've heard that somewhere in the New Testament > I think, Hmmm. > God commanded Abraham, a God obedient person, to kill his son. God lied. God does not command again for Abraham to kill his son. God lying is a form of deception. The greatest deception that God does is by concealing evidence of it's existence or disguising/camouflaging itself in reality. Christian engineers are ridiculous in believing in a God that didn't hide in the bible but has to hide now. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: Mr.Eko on 30 Apr 2010 01:06 On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:47:42 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: >In article <K_Odnci2rLcXi0fWnZ2dnUVZ_hednZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, >regor(a)midwest.net says... >> >> "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message >> news:MPG.2642c3681ed53dfb989805(a)209.197.12.12... >> > In article <4_qdnd_4z4BLI0XWnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, >> > regor(a)midwest.net says... >> >> One thing we do know about God is that he can not lie. See if DfromBC >> >> can >> >> understand the book of Esther and see where a God that cannot lie fits >> >> in. >> >> >> >> RogerN >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Genesis chapter 11:26 to 25:10. >> > 'Some time after the birth of Isaac, Abraham was commanded by God to >> > offer his son up as a sacrifice in the land of Moriah. >> > Just as Abraham was about to sacrifice his son, he was prevented by an >> > angel, and given on that spot a ram which he sacrificed in place of his >> > son.' >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham >> >> >> So, God asks Abraham to give his son's life, this sounds strangely familiar. >> And Abraham believes that if he gives his son's life, that his son will be >> raised from the dead, something familiar there too. But Abrahams said God >> would provide the sacrifice, I've heard that somewhere in the New Testament >> I think, Hmmm. >> > > >God commanded Abraham, a God obedient person, to kill his son. >God lied. >God does not command again for Abraham to kill his son. >God lying is a form of deception. You really have no concept of the lesson God was teaching all of man with that? Amazing. > >The greatest deception that God does is by concealing evidence of it's >existence or disguising/camouflaging itself in reality. God does no such thing. Try this following scripture, and see if you can find who said it... "the blind shall not see..." That refers to you, for one thing. The other is that since we killed the one savior God ever sent to Earth, we are undeserving of ANY of God's love, and only those that give their true faith have any chance at all of being ready upon His return. >Christian engineers are ridiculous in believing in a God that didn't >hide in the bible but has to hide now. He is not hiding, nor does he "have to hide". You are blind. You are the person that God finds "fishers of men" for, and uses them to bring you to a new baptism, which is your only hope of retaining that glimmer of faith and making it grow. Truth be told, that is why you are *still* here, Curious George.
From: D from BC on 30 Apr 2010 02:50 In article <7vokt518g0e393p33pisq4q0tcgbv35jf9(a)4ax.com>, ekointhedirt(a)lostisland.org says... > >God commanded Abraham, a God obedient person, to kill his son. > >God lied. > >God does not command again for Abraham to kill his son. > >God lying is a form of deception. > > You really have no concept of the lesson God was teaching all of man > with that? Amazing. Lying is done for many reasons. Lying has many forms. One form of lying is God being misleading. God misleads Abraham to kill his son. God at the very least uses the white lie. No matter what God's purpose with Abraham, God still lies. God commands and lies to Abraham to kill his son. God's lie is revealed when God's command is canceled. > > > >The greatest deception that God does is by concealing evidence of it's > >existence or disguising/camouflaging itself in reality. > > God does no such thing. Try this following scripture, and see if you > can find who said it... "the blind shall not see..." That not how the real and unreal are distinguished. > > That refers to you, for one thing. > > The other is that since we killed the one savior God ever sent to You make it sound so bad. It's God's good plan. It's from God's superior intellect that death is the only solution for Jesus. No Jesus death = no forgiveness of all sins. We should love the ancient Jewish leaders for doing a wonderful service to mankind. Jesus was a whipped pinata. > Earth, we are undeserving of ANY of God's love, and only those that God used dust and a rib. That might be the problem. God is responsible for less than lovable humans. > give their true faith have any chance at all of being ready upon His > return. If we got forgiveness for all sins on the first Jesus death, imagine what we'd get for killing Jesus again. > > >Christian engineers are ridiculous in believing in a God that didn't > >hide in the bible but has to hide now. > > He is not hiding, nor does he "have to hide". You are blind. You > are The only way to see God is by delusion. iows..God is a brain fart. > the person that God finds "fishers of men" for, and uses them to bring > you to a new baptism, which is your only hope of retaining that glimmer > of faith and making it grow. > > Truth be told, that is why you are *still* here, Curious George. > Making a God delusion doesn't make God real. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: RogerN on 30 Apr 2010 19:41
"Jon Kirwan" <jonk(a)infinitefactors.org> wrote in message news:ns9kt55act19rtgb10o76io872pgiame4o(a)4ax.com... > And I still wonder if you understand the hard path being > asked by Jesus. > > Do you? > > Jon Quite frankly I'm not sure your understanding is one bit better than Jim Jones's. I understand that to be the ideal Christian one forfeits their life an they do not live according to their own desires and goals, but the life of Christ is lived through them. Not I that live, but Christ in me. My interpretation of the Bible, Old or New Testament, Paul, Peter, Matthew, Mark,... whoever, they all fit together, unlike yours where you have pieces of the puzzle upside down and backwards. It is interesting to discuss with you because in some ways you have went beyond me but in other ways you don't seem to understand the basics, sort of like an electronics designer that doesn't understand ohms law. The result is that in every discussion I have to figure out if there is something for me to learn or if it's your misunderstanding of the elementary aspects. Did I provide the answer that you were looking for? The one that looses their life finds it and the one that holds onto their life looses it? I know that it the correct answer but I have no idea if that is the answer that you are looking for. For all I can tell in the discussion so far your answer might involve Oreo cookies. Like when you wanted me to see the great revelation about Isaiah, that some thought it was written by two different authors, and some still do. What does that have to do with the prophecies about the messiah being written before the time of Jesus and later being fulfilled by Jesus, for that purpose it does not matter if every word was written by a different author, but yet that is what you wanted me to see. But I am curious, is your wife a real Christian or a false Christian? RogerN |