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From: D from BC on 3 May 2010 23:57 In article <3l1ns59hs5dnismh3vkdmoedb3vte2p1at(a)4ax.com>, jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... > >Ideally there is automatic respect of human life and the leg gets fixed. > >(Especially made easier by Canadian medicare.) > > --- > Funded by atheists, right? > This is an example of how what you believe(what's in your head) can influence/poison your reality. The majority of Americans are Christian. The American health care system parallels Christian prayer. No coverage = no help. No prayer = no help. God's help is conditional. There must be a prayer to get help. A hospital/Doctor's help is conditional. There must be health insurance to get help. It's more ethical if there's less conditions for medical help. It's more ethical if there's less conditions for God to help. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: D from BC on 4 May 2010 03:40 In article <3l1ns59hs5dnismh3vkdmoedb3vte2p1at(a)4ax.com>, jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... > > >It is unethical when coercion is involved in having a leg fixed. > >'I'll fix it ..but first you need to do this and that and this and > >that.' > > --- > As I see it, all that's required for your leg to be fixed is that you > believe that it _can_ be fixed and then that you turn the repair over to > someone who you believe is competent to fix it. My point is not about what is believed. It's about what God wants first. It's like God wants $100000 up front before helping. Instead of paying $100000 upfront, God will help if you are a real Christian and if you pray. No praying or else nothing. That is coercion. An allknowing allseeing God wants you to perform first(pray) or you get nothing. It's more advanced and sophisticated if God simply and directly addressed medical emergencies without coercion. > > If you don't/can't, then you're interposing your lack of trust into the > formula for the cure, and fighting with the doctor who _wants_ to get > you well, and eventually you'll die. > > All for the purpose of trying to prove that you're greater than God. > Not just me, but all people have greater ethics than God of the bible. God's help is conditional. The conditions for help are to pray and be a God/Jesus believer. Prayer is mandatory or else God will do nothing resulting in pain/suffering or disease. That makes God discriminating and racist by having irrational requirements before granting results. Doctors are less discriminating to treat a person. God has more discrimination and therefore has inferior ethics. God is less good to people compared to people to people. Christian engineers are ridiculous in believing that God is good even when God does evil. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: RogerN on 4 May 2010 06:36 "Jon Kirwan" <jonk(a)infinitefactors.org> wrote in message news:vqkrt5hp21t0bo2ot2qt6pf9qfkiuetvf3(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 02 May 2010 11:18:55 -0700, wrote: > >>On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:41:32 -0500, "RogerN" >><regor(a)midwest.net> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Jon Kirwan" <jonk(a)infinitefactors.org> wrote in message >>>news:ns9kt55act19rtgb10o76io872pgiame4o(a)4ax.com... >>>> And I still wonder if you understand the hard path being >>>> asked by Jesus. >>>> >>>> Do you? >>>> >>>> Jon >>> >>>Quite frankly I'm not sure your understanding is one bit better than Jim >>>Jones's. >><snip of long apology for not doing what Jesus asked of those who follow> > > Well, that analogy is obviously incorrect on its face. > > In no way am I suggesting anything that doesn't come straight > from Jesus in scripture. I'm just asking you to actually > consider Jesus' words, carefully and thoughtfully. If you > do, it's pretty clear what he is asking of those who choose > to follow him. > > And to make the point clearer, ALL of the early Christians > actually _did_ understand his words and _knew_ what was being > asked of them and _performed_ accordingly, in action and > deed. We have ample evidence of that. > > What _you_ have lost is the ability to hear him, anymore. > >>>But I am curious, is your wife a real Christian or a false Christian? > > You just pile one aspersion after another, don't you? > > When was the last time you beat your wife? You said your wife was a Christian, didn't you? Didn't you also say that you thought there were only maybe 4 or 5 real Christians on Earth? I was just wondering if you considered your wife to be one of those "real Christians". > Now, go back and READ what Jesus asked _you_ to do. The > Christians closer to Jesus knew. Apparently, you've lost the > ability now to understand what they understood. I'm merely > asking you to regain the hearing you've lost. That's all. > You are deaf to Jesus, it seems. > > Jon Are you talking about selling all my possessions? I think the correct understanding of this passage would be to get rid of the things that take your time from God. I don't think Jesus is saying you can't own clothes or the bare essentials, or have tools to do your job, notice after the crucifixion the disciples didn't have to buy fishing equipment. But a rich person can have money and/or possessions that become their owners. This is my understanding and it is based on the passage in Matthew and similar passages in the other gospels (can't serve God and money...). I do plan on selling my hobby type possessions, the stuff that I spend my time with that I could be helping others and spending more time with God. Currently my income helps about 9 others in the essentials. My home with 4.5 acres was appraised at $42,500 and the purchase price was $41,500, that is inexpensive even for this area. What do you think I lack? RogerN
From: D from BC on 4 May 2010 14:15 In article <3l1ns59hs5dnismh3vkdmoedb3vte2p1at(a)4ax.com>, jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... > > >It's is unethical when coercion is involved to be granted the afterlife > >(The afterlife fixes the medical condition know as death.) > > --- > No, the afterlife _relieves_ the condition known as death, and there's > no coercion, there are just rules. > > Believe in it and you've got it, don't and you don't. > --- > God makes up rules to create discrimination and indoctrination. The other nonGod religions and non-religious are weeded out and treated differently in the afterlife by God. God is a thought racist. The NaziGod wants YOU to think Jesus OR ELSE! The NaziGod wants YOU to be pure/real Christian OR ELSE! Or else you go into the oven(hell) or into the torture camp(hell) or you get some ominous Godless afterlife.(Depends which one of 38000 Christian denominations) YOu are rewarded for the Jesus think more than rewarded for being a good person. Being good to Jesus is more important than being good to people. If you don't join the Jesus club you don't get the Jesus stuff. 'Be Christian or else ' is indoctrination by coercion. 'Think Jesus or else' is a threat of a substandard afterlife. It's indoctrination by terrorism. God does not use GOOD persuasion to make good. God uses EVIL persuasion to make good. Christian engineers are ridiculous in believing in a God with mafia boss gangster rules. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: RogerN on 4 May 2010 18:32
"D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.26493afef88400ef98981d(a)209.197.12.12... > In article <3l1ns59hs5dnismh3vkdmoedb3vte2p1at(a)4ax.com>, > jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... >> >Ideally there is automatic respect of human life and the leg gets fixed. >> >(Especially made easier by Canadian medicare.) >> >> --- >> Funded by atheists, right? >> > > This is an example of how what you believe(what's in your head) can > influence/poison your reality. > > The majority of Americans are Christian. > The American health care system parallels Christian prayer. > No coverage = no help. > No prayer = no help. > > God's help is conditional. There must be a prayer to get help. > A hospital/Doctor's help is conditional. There must be health insurance > to get help. > > It's more ethical if there's less conditions for medical help. > It's more ethical if there's less conditions for God to help. > > > -- > D from BC > British Columbia No, wrong again. Man and God had a relationship, man choose not to obey God, as a result man and God were separated. God made a covenant with man, that covenant includes healing. If man keeps mans part, God does God's part. I suppose you also believe a SMPS should work without any power source? Why not, if a circuit is good and electricity never fails, it should work no matter what. That is how stupid ALL your arguments are. RogerN |