Can Christian Electronic Designers Design?
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From: RogerN on 5 May 2010 22:47 "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.264b5dabb2dc903d989821(a)209.197.12.12... > In article <IrOdnWl6TvubMX3WnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, > regor(a)midwest.net says... >> > My point is not about what is believed. It's about what God wants >> > first. >> > It's like God wants $100000 up front before helping. >> > Instead of paying $100000 upfront, God will help if you are a real >> > Christian and if you pray. No praying or else nothing. >> > That is coercion. >> >> Again, that is your own twist to the facts. The fact is that while we >> were >> yet sinners, God sent Jesus to die for us so that we could be restored to >> him. God's doing things his way, not your way. We turned away from God, >> why is it wrong to turn to him? > > God's way/rule/system is create a 'You owe me big time' situation. Yes, and God provided the payment. You remember Abraham? He was going up with his son to sacrifice to God. His son asked about the animal to sacrifice and Abraham said God would provide the lamb. As Abraham was willing to sacrifice his own son, God provided the lamb. We Owe God "big time" and he paid it. RogerN
From: D from BC on 5 May 2010 23:27 In article <8JCdnZXn7MwNPX3WnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, regor(a)midwest.net says... > > It's more ethical if there's less conditions for medical help. > > It's more ethical if there's less conditions for God to help. > > > > > > -- > > D from BC > > British Columbia > > No, wrong again. Man and God had a relationship, man choose not to obey > God, as a result man and God were separated. God made a covenant with man, Adam + Eve had a relationship with God. God barked orders and Adam and EVe obeyed. It was a good relationship until Mr S. took advantage that Eve was deficient(by God) in evil detection skills. AFter they were specifically told not to jump on God's land mines, Adam and Eve jumped on the land mines. Adam and Eve do not explode but they did get evicted for partying too loud. > that covenant includes healing. If man keeps mans part, God does God's You claim God has a deal with humans that God does healing. > part. I suppose you also believe a SMPS should work without any power > source? Why not, if a circuit is good and electricity never fails, it > should work no matter what. That is how stupid ALL your arguments are. > > RogerN > > Say there's a deal(covenant) between God and humans for healing. God's certainly wants something out of this deal. It's unethical that God wants something. It's doesn't matter what he wants, it's that God has a want. It's more ethical if a God wants nothing and just heals. An altruistic God is more good than a God with needs/conditions/requirements/prerequisites. An altuistic God is a God that doesn't need prayer. A God with needs such as the need to be glorified is a weak God. Christian engineers are ridiculous in believing in a God that has invented an ineffective way to get glorified. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: D from BC on 6 May 2010 02:03 In article <IumdnThhKL6ZFVbWnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, regor(a)midwest.net says... > Some electronic designers believe the things you listed, some don't. Each > electronic designer probably believes something others don't or doesn't > believe something that others believe. Does that make electronic design a > religion? If I heard correctly the arrow on a diode was pointed like that A religion can be recognized by having a list of tenets. Ex. 10 Commandments If there's the worship of something, it gets classified as a religion. Buddhists have no God but they do worship Buddha. Buddhist is a religion. Generally nobody is worshiped in electronics. Electronics is not a religion. What you are talking about is the knowledge difference between individuals in electronics. The beliefs/misbeliefs/knowledge/information in electronics are very often testable. The truth can be found by testing ideas in electronics. God is not testable. > when it was believed current flowed from positive to negative. Does that > mean we should all throw electronics out, sometimes we get something wrong > and hopefully learn something, this is true if your talking about a religion > or anything else, God know evolutionists have had to throw more than their > share of bad ideas out, mostly because of the Atheist religion infiltrating > science. > > RogerN > Dunno if I'm following that last bit. Evolution has become much more refined since Darwin. Darwin didn't have genetic analysis tools. Atheism doesn't qualify well as a religion. There's only one tenet and no God to worship. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: D from BC on 6 May 2010 04:54 In article <8Z-dnb425vU7oFbWnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, regor(a)midwest.net says... > > Let me guess... > > Some slave age desert apes made a verbal contract with God. > > God gets to do immoral inactions forever (forever violates Good > > Samaritan Law and violates the Hippocratic oath) and the believers get > > in exchange 'the afterlife'. > > Nope, God's part involves healing and provision. The covenant is written, > it's called the Old Testament, but now there is a New Covenant called the > New Testament. > > A covenant is a deal. God's deal with humans means that God needs a deal. Deals spoil God's omnipotence. A truly powerful God would be free of deals with anyone. A God would simply do good and not need deals(convenants) with humans. God's deal is 'You worship' or else no prizes. You worship a God that is substandard and requires deals to be good. A truly good God would automatically and unconditionally help people with ethics used by doctors(Hippocratic oath.) Doctors do not discriminate. God discriminates. Doctors do not need prayer. God needs prayers. Doctors do not need a 'Doctor believer'. God needs a believer(s). Doctors do not need a deal. God needs a deal. Doctors do not need to be praised. God needs to be praised. God has too many BS technicalities before delivering a miracle cure via prayer. Christian engineers are ridiculous in worshiping a good yet discriminating God that only does good for Christians. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: RogerN on 6 May 2010 06:59
"D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.264bcccf132c1d43989823(a)209.197.12.12... > In article <Psudnb_iqMjGmX_WnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, > regor(a)midwest.net says... >> >> Actually, in case you haven't noticed, prayer isn't all that good at >> moving >> God either. Some people pray and pray and never get what they want. > > That's are 5 possibilities to explain why a request type prayer may not > be answered by God: > 1) God has good reason to not grant your prayer. > 2) Wrong God. > 3) There is no God. > 4) God doesn't hear prayers. > 5) Wrong definition of God. Don't forget lack of faith in God. > >> want God's attention you have to come to him on his terms, not yours, > not >> mine, not any atheists, or anybody else's. If you want to prove that the >> God of the Bible doesn't exists, try it his way, if he doesn't respond >> when >> you do it his way then you can know. >> >> RogerN >> >> >> > > Huh?? Your last part doesn't make any sense. > Do you mean it takes a God to disprove a God?? > > How about all the Christians pray that God appears and God drops 6 > billion copies of a better bible using magic paper. > The magic paper is understood by all languages. > The magic paper is impervious to all forms of mistranslation. > It's the real magic bible for Dummies. > http://www.inspire4less.com/productimages/9780764552960.jpg > > Christian engineers are ridiculous in believing in a God that is > ineffective and retarded at spreading a religion. > > > -- > D from BC > British Columbia If the Bible says if you do something and God will respond, then if you do that "something" and God doesn't respond, you know it's wrong. Like math says if you have 2 apples and add 2 more apples, you'll have 4 apples, if it doesn't work then math would be wrong. The Bible says to find God you must first believe that he is, atheists can't find God, and he's a rewarder of those who diligently seek him. I'm trying to think of a test you can do to get a reaction from God but I can't think of any where God responds to Atheists. There are some for believers and I have first hand and second hand knowledge that they work. Last small example was just last week. RogerN |