From: Archimedes' Lever on
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:29:35 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com>
wrote:

>The 'considered until ruled out' argument applies to an endless amount
>of imagined things.

We imagine that you are a goddamned idiot, and it is 100% ruled IN.
From: D from BC on
In article <i1usr5l1ptj0fqcd824n5p7i052famn61h(a)4ax.com>,
OneBigLever(a)InfiniteSeries.Org says...
>
> On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 10:53:01 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <i3lrr5tlkktqkpiigh8omr4bbsqu21d8s8(a)4ax.com>,
> >jfields(a)austininstruments.com says...
> >> ---
> >> Duhhh...
> >>
> >> Read Genesis 1.
> >>
> >> God didn't any life into the sea until the fifth day.
> >>
> >> JF
> >>
> >
> >
> >Do you believe ALL sea life was made instantly on the fifth DAY?
>
> I already told you IDIOT! The "day" of God is NOT the same time
> reference as our day. You stupid twit!

Not all 38000 Christian denominations will agree with you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-Age_Creationism

..[83] "Young Earth" creationists believe that the seven "days" of
Genesis 1 correspond to normal 24-hour days while Day-age creationists,
more willing to adjust their religious beliefs to accommodate current
scientific findings, hold that each "day" represents an "age" of perhaps
millions or even billions of years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_1:2

I look at the way it's used in the bible ..
1st day..2nd day..3rd day..

It's quirky to express a timeline as
1st unknown period of time
2nd unknown period of time
3rd unknown period of time.

More to the point would be:
'God did this and then did that and then did this....'

In biblical times goat trading must have been difficult.
One could say they'll pay the next day.
That could mean billions of years!

A day in biblical times means sunrise to sunset.
Only a god can do that in a day!
Only a retarded God needs more than a day to get things done.

In the 1700's were people understanding the bible wrong when the age of
the universe wasn't known?

--
D from BC
British Columbia

From: Beryl on
Archimedes' Lever wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:24:42 -0700, Beryl <fourl(a)road.net> wrote:
>
>> "The thickness of sedimentary rocks in the vicinity of the Santa Susana
>> Mts (eastern Ventura basin) may reach 7- to 8-km depth."
>
>
> Is it exposed?

I don't know how much is, or isn't. It's a scenic drive along "Ronald
Reagan Freeway" (the 118) that takes you past layer after layer of rock,
for miles and miles.

> My reference was to exposed strata.

Yes. Why? That doesn't make it relevant just because you wandered off on
a tangent in a previous reply.

> We know of thicker deposits, not that you would be aware merely because
> you attended some classes.

"The thickest deposits are over 792 vertical meters thick, and that is
exposed."

", and that is exposed" is a real nice addition that doesn't alter your
statement that "The thickest deposits are over 792 vertical meters thick."

> You sound just like "some idiot".

"As far as where did current sedimentary deposits come from? They came
from silt settling while the continent was covered by an ocean."

Someone who sounds like an idiot (that's you) thinks limestone came from
silt deposits.
From: D from BC on
In article <f4usr5dmaprb1f415s756bur7ruc1tnt1a(a)4ax.com>,
OneBigLever(a)InfiniteSeries.Org says...
> So dinosaurs turned into birds in the blink of an eye, eh?
>
> Or was it that they merely "wanted" to fly, and "evolution" answered
> them in a positive way?
>

Flight can evolve from the environmental pressure to not hit the ground
or to get around better for food or to escape enemies.
It starts with gliding, then better gliding, then much more better
gliding until the gliding is so good that it's called flight.

Here's an example of reptiles with flight behavior.
Flying snake and flying dragon lizard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIYAYuuv2qQ

There's no fossil record of birds suddenly appearing and spreading over
the earth from Noah's arc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur_feathers

There's evidence of transitions from dino to bird.
Semi-bird.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeopteryx


--
D from BC
British Columbia
From: Martin Brown on
Archimedes' Lever wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 15:36:38 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com>
> wrote:
>
>> A Christian engineer is ridiculous because they can be instantly turned
>> into a clown when asked how old the earth is.
>
> The current "Earth" is a bit over 4.5 billion years old. The masses
> and conglomerates that it massed together from is a billion years older
> than that. The star that filled our local space with iron and various
> other debris went supernova some millions of years prior to that. The big
> bang occurred 7 billion years before that.
>
> 13 billion years ago, God "created the heavens and the Earth"... which
> is to say that God's "day one" was 13 billion years ago, and "the heavens
> and the earth are stars and the elements.
>
> You are a total retard to think that folks believe that the 7 day
> reference is 7 turns of our planet. It is not. Never was. Use some
> common sense, you retarded little sub-human puke.

You mean like Dubya Bush? He appointed a halfwit from his campaign team
called Deutsch with forged academic credentials to deface NASA websites
and censor what their scientists wrote about Big Bang Cosmology and AGW.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/08/politics/08nasa.html?_r=1

"Only a Theory" (sic) used in the derogatory manner of the YEC.

Bishop Usher had an excuse. When he made his 6000y estimate it was a
reasonable thing to do given the available evidence then. Lord Kelvin
was able to give Darwin a hard time on evolution because there was no
known power source that could make the sun shine for billions of years.

Modern science has airbrushed out Lord Kelvins acerbic contribution to
the debate in favour of saying he anticipated nuclear power. He did no
such thing. He argued vigorously that Darwin and the geologists must be
wrong because the sun would run out of coal (best known fuel at that
time) far too quickly for evolution to be correct.

http://www.uh.edu/engines/epi144.htm

He didn't get any thanks for this from his own side because his lifetime
estimate for the Earth was still a lot more than 6000y.

Unfortunately in America there is a large rump of medieval superstition
sat in the Young Earth Creationist movement who interpret the words in a
particular version of an English translation of the Bible literally.
They sincerely believe the Earth is 6000-9000 years old and will deny
any and all scientific evidence to the contrary.

Unclear to me how many of them eat bacon, pork and shellfish which is
pure hypocrisy given that Leviticus 11 is very clear on what is allowed.
>
> We were created. Over 2000 years ago, the folks that wrote about it had
> limited knowledge of the Earth, and they wrote with what knowledge they
> had.

The majority of established Churches are determined to maintain their
power base and income by keeping people in fear and ignorance.

Regards,
Martin Brown