From: John Fields on 13 Apr 2010 08:06 On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:53:57 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: >In article <hbudnSD14rHQwl_WnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d(a)supernews.com>, >eather(a)tpg.com.au says... >> If God has made / allowed other ways for people to enter eternal life >> that's OK with me. --- So you're _allowing_ God to do what He wants to do? --- >>I made no comment on that. I only commented on what >> made someone a Christian, which is a belief in Christ. >> > >And what if people don't believe in Christ? --- Then it doesn't matter, since those who believe they've never sinned need not have that fault be absolved by Jesus's death. --- >Does God's mechanistic death system use illegal power like a criminal >holding a gun to your head? --- Have you stopped beating your wife? --- >Believe or BANG!. (Or perhaps they go to Rogers 'Hell Lite' for slightly >evil people.) >What happens if you don't believe in Christ/God? --- Nothing. --- >Or.. Do you believe in Christ/God just in case. (That's another can of >worms.) > >It's ridiculous to be driven by fear and ignorance of that which shows >no evidence. --- There's ample evidence for the existence of miracles which, as far as we know, are the work of supernatural/divine beings. --- >Christian engineers are ridiculous in acquiring unnecessary paranoia >from Christian concepts. --- Just because you're afraid to look past the end of your nose doesn't mean there's nothing out there. JF
From: John Fields on 13 Apr 2010 08:47 On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:23:41 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: >In article <N8mdnd5liriUY1_WnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, >regor(a)midwest.net says... >> The Bible straight out tells you that a day with God is as 1000 years, >> that's not making it mean something that isn't already in the Bible. >Toward >> the end there is supposed to be 1000 years of peace, this could represent >> the day of rest, the 7th day. So in the Biblical timeline for man there >> could be 6 ea 1000 year "days" and the last 1000 years of peace. >> > >The numbers are not big enough.. >Earth/universe age is in terms of millions/billions of years.. > >A God that pre-ages is con artist. > >Genesis is just a story to shut kids up when they ask too many >questions. >Daddy doesn't look dumb by saying 'I dunno'. >Even a dumb primitive goat herder gets to feel like a know-it-all >without getting into quantum physics. --- Do you know the difference between 'literal' and 'figurative'? JF
From: John Fields on 13 Apr 2010 08:58 On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:28:20 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: >In article <8--dnYengp7n_l7WnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d(a)supernews.com>, >eather(a)tpg.com.au says... >> >> On 13/04/2010 3:53 AM, D from BC wrote: >> > In article<hbudnSD14rHQwl_WnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d(a)supernews.com>, >> > eather(a)tpg.com.au says... >> >> If God has made / allowed other ways for people to enter eternal life >> >> that's OK with me. I made no comment on that. I only commented on what >> >> made someone a Christian, which is a belief in Christ. >> >> >> > >> > And what if people don't believe in Christ? >> > Does God's mechanistic death system use illegal power like a criminal >> > holding a gun to your head? >> > Believe or BANG!. (Or perhaps they go to Rogers 'Hell Lite' for slightly >> > evil people.) >> > What happens if you don't believe in Christ/God? >> >> Why ask me? I already said "If God has made / allowed other ways for >> people to enter eternal life that's OK with me." >> >> > >> > Or.. Do you believe in Christ/God just in case. (That's another can of >> > worms.) >> > >> >> I already told you why I believe >> >> > It's ridiculous to be driven by fear and ignorance of that which shows >> > no evidence. >> > Christian engineers are ridiculous in acquiring unnecessary paranoia >> > from Christian concepts. >> >> Show some evidence of that. >> > >Anyone who is afraid to dump Christianity for fear of hell. --- That isn't evidence, it's just you spouting off at the mouth trying to justify your position by condemning others' If you really want to kill God, why don't you prove that miracles don't exist? JF
From: D from BC on 13 Apr 2010 18:32 In article <0le7s5l2qar0dhudv03gl5qoph09cfno7d(a)4ax.com>, jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... > >Believe or BANG!. (Or perhaps they go to Rogers 'Hell Lite' for slightly > >evil people.) > >What happens if you don't believe in Christ/God? > > --- > Nothing. > --- > Then there's no reason to believe in Christ/God. All you got is a story book useful in mollifying slaves. -- D from BC British Columbia
From: D from BC on 13 Apr 2010 18:32
In article <0lp8s51al8chv1t8g9o9dgp52rrar5l4me(a)4ax.com>, jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... > > On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:23:41 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> > wrote: > > >In article <N8mdnd5liriUY1_WnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, > >regor(a)midwest.net says... > >> The Bible straight out tells you that a day with God is as 1000 years, > >> that's not making it mean something that isn't already in the Bible. > >Toward > >> the end there is supposed to be 1000 years of peace, this could represent > >> the day of rest, the 7th day. So in the Biblical timeline for man there > >> could be 6 ea 1000 year "days" and the last 1000 years of peace. > >> > > > >The numbers are not big enough.. > >Earth/universe age is in terms of millions/billions of years.. > > > >A God that pre-ages is con artist. > > > >Genesis is just a story to shut kids up when they ask too many > >questions. > >Daddy doesn't look dumb by saying 'I dunno'. > >Even a dumb primitive goat herder gets to feel like a know-it-all > >without getting into quantum physics. > > --- > Do you know the difference between 'literal' and 'figurative'? > > JF There is no complete literal or figurative consensus amount 38000 Christian denominations. The bible has become a Rorschach blot. TEst it.. Jehovah witnesses refuse blood transfusions due to blood being sacred. Are the Jehovah witnesses making an improper evaluation of what's literal and what's figurative? -- D from BC British Columbia |