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From: RogerN on 15 Apr 2010 17:50 "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.26303fbda033ef299897ce(a)209.197.12.12... <snip> > > This baby needed a miracle. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Enencephaly.jpg > This baby did not grow a forebrain. > > Terry Fox needed a miracle. > His leg didn't grow back > > Millions of amputees and none get a miracle. > The difference is that amputees have 0 odds of limbs growing back. > People are not like starfish. > Most so called 'miracles' happen with people with medical conditions > with small or non zero odds of recovery. > When they beat the odds 'It's a miracle'. > > Unfortunately, if anyone grows a leg back, perhaps the only way to check > if it's a miracle is to chop it off and see if it grows back again. :P > > > -- > D from BC > British Columbia So, if a Christian prayed for an amputee and their limb(s) grew back, would you believe in God? RogerN
From: John Fields on 15 Apr 2010 18:59 On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:10:59 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: >In article <0l7bs511ab5cjq1g1t5eg9q34tqvk8uoob(a)4ax.com>, >jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... >> >> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:32:47 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> >> wrote: >> >> >In article <7dq8s5t72pl0otsppf1mkuuu4iqmvb8g2i(a)4ax.com>, >> >jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... >> >> -- >> >> That isn't evidence, it's just you spouting off at the mouth trying to >> >> justify your position by condemning others' >> >> >> >> If you really want to kill God, why don't you prove that miracles don't >> >> exist? >> >> >> >> JF >> >> >> > >> >Amputees don't get their legs back. >> >> --- >> And that's supposed to prove that miracles don't exist? >> >> You need to read up on logical fallacies. >> JF >This baby needed a miracle. --- That was God's decision to make, not yours. --- >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Enencephaly.jpg >This baby did not grow a forebrain. --- That doesn't prove that miracles don't exist. --- >Terry Fox needed a miracle. --- That was God's decision to make, not yours. --- >His leg didn't grow back --- That doesn't prove that miracles don't exist. --- >Millions of amputees and none get a miracle. --- That doesn't prove that miracles don't exist. --- >The difference is that amputees have 0 odds of limbs growing back. --- And corpses, which one would presume have zero chance of coming back to life, have been raised from the dead. --- >People are not like starfish. --- That's a miracle. --- >Most so called 'miracles' happen with people with medical conditions >with small or non zero odds of recovery. >When they beat the odds 'It's a miracle'. --- Instead of playing fuckaround with "so-called" miracles, why don't you try to refute _real_ miracles, which no one can explain at our current state of development? --- >Unfortunately, if anyone grows a leg back, perhaps the only way to check >if it's a miracle is to chop it off and see if it grows back again. :P --- Not a good idea... http://biblenotes.homestead.com/files/bn9972.htm#Psalm 78:18 - 31 JF
From: John Fields on 15 Apr 2010 20:23 On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:50:55 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: >In article <ed8bs556c59ch2e2dntcfmqhf78j6i0i7a(a)4ax.com>, >jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... >> >You got a God that constantly needs to be jerked off. >> >> --- >> If by "jerked off" you mean "acknowledged", then yes and, I suspect, in >> the same vein as you'd expect your children to acknowledge you. >> --- >> > > >God needs to be 'jerked off' is a metaphor for the need to feel good. >God needs to get off on humans. >God needs to feel pleasure. >Gods needs needs needs needs needs 'insert human emotion'. --- The problem with you is that you're trying to anthropomorphize God so that you can pretend to authority you don't have in order to criticize God's actions from the point of view of one who feels superior and needs to cut God down to size for not saving all of the dying babies. --- >God appears to to be deficient in dopamine and serotonin or may have >problems in the septum pellucidium. --- In your case, septum pellucidumbass... More cutesy anthropomorphization? --- >God made the universe yet can't make his own dopamine and serotonin?? >That's not very all-powerful.. --- What is it you don't understand about not being human? Can't you, for just a few seconds, shed your fear and come to terms with the fact that you're not the be-all and the end-all of creation and that something greater than you put you here and is allowing you to run your race? --- >Making the earth and the universe seems like a lot of trouble just to >get jerked off. --- How would you know? --- >Even if true, God is not worthy of worship. --- Well, there's the crux of it, isn't it? You hold yourself in such high esteem that you expect God to report to you, and yet you don't even know that a vacuum fluorescent display doesn't need a polarizer to work? Geez, even _I_ know that... --- >And... >Christian engineers are ridiculous in believing in an all powerful God >incapable of changing his own brain chemistry. --- "Brain" chemistry? Just another silly anthropomorphism. JF
From: John Fields on 15 Apr 2010 20:44 On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:11:43 -0700, "JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 05:53:15 -0500, "RogerN" <regor(a)midwest.net> wrote: > >> >>"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >>news:la6bs5dnqimr5i58ipnsfasq1mb463998k(a)4ax.com... >>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:32:46 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>In article <0le7s5l2qar0dhudv03gl5qoph09cfno7d(a)4ax.com>, >>>>jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... >>>>> >Believe or BANG!. (Or perhaps they go to Rogers 'Hell Lite' for >>>>> >slightly >>>>> >evil people.) >>>>> >What happens if you don't believe in Christ/God? >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Nothing. >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>> >>>>Then there's no reason to believe in Christ/God. >>>>All you got is a story book useful in mollifying slaves. >>> >>> --- >>> You missed it, as usual. >>> >>> If you don't believe in God, nothing happens. >>> >>> It's when you _do_ believe that things start happening. >>> >>> JF >> >>Right, >> >>D from BC: Show me and I'll believe. >> >>God: Believe and I'll show you. >> >>RogerN >> > >Sounds remarkably like 5 yo kids in the play ground. --- Precocious kids, no? JF
From: D from BC on 15 Apr 2010 22:03
In article <H4GdnVP0Cv7v4lrWnZ2dnUVZ_sUAAAAA(a)supernews.com>, eather(a)tpg.com.au says... > > On 15/04/2010 2:18 PM, D from BC wrote: > > In article<qf7bs59hgioii5viskovjmr59qsafk8dmo(a)4ax.com>, > > jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... > >>>> Do you know the difference between 'literal' and 'figurative'? > >> > > > > The difference between literal and figurative..for Christians is: > > If something in the bible is immoral,unjust, unethical or just plain > > nuts then it's meant to be taken figuratively. > > If something in the bible is moral,true,sane or ethical then it's meant > > to be taken literally or figuratively. > > Nothing in the bible is to be taken figuratively to mean something > > immoral, unjust or just plain nuts. > > It's just superduper that way. > > > > iirc the bible was written in a now dead language translated into 1600's > > English. > > > You've already been told to get a decent (modern) translation and work > from that - you dimwit. A translation is best fit to English. After that, the bible is still needs 'spin doctor' work to reduce the lunacy, violence and immoral behavior of a God and it's followers. For example... God said to Adam/Eve that they would die if the ate the fruit. Serpent says 'You won't die.' Adam/Eve ate and didn't die. 'Die' is too be taken figuratively. God and the serpent are not liars. Ref to NLT ' 2 "Of course we may eat fruit from the trees in the garden," the woman replied.3 "It's only the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden that we are not allowed to eat. God said, 'You must not eat it or even touch it; if you do, you will die.'" 4 "You won't die!" the serpent replied to the woman.5 "God knows that your eyes will be opened as soon as you eat it, and you will be like God, knowing both good and evil. ' This is no book sanctioned by 38000 Christian denominations as to being the indisputable reference in understanding the figurative content in the bible. Christian engineers are ridiculous to force nonsense in the bible to make sense. |