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From: D from BC on 15 Apr 2010 22:39 In article <RYWdnZRV6r4aFFrWnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, regor(a)midwest.net says... > > "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.263028a618567fec9897cb(a)209.197.12.12... > > In article <la6bs5dnqimr5i58ipnsfasq1mb463998k(a)4ax.com>, > > jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... > >> > > Christians have a base for racism if they regard nonchristians as > > afterlifeless. > > > > A nicer religion would wish all the best in whatever happens after one's > > molecules return to the earth regardless of faith or lack of.. > > As opposed to 'Join our Christian religion or your no afterlife for > > you.' > > > > Christian engineers are ridiculous to regard nonChristians as the > > afterlifeless. > > > > > > -- > > D from BC > > British Columbia > > > So, which race has evolved superior and which ones hinder evolution and need > to be killed? > > RogerN Nobody is getting killed.. That's from your Christian programming. God uses death as solution. (God kills over 2million people in the bible) Jesus uses death as solution. (Forgiveness of all sins.) These are characters MOST capable of NOT using death as a solution. God/Jesus sponsor 'death as a solution' as a GOOD thing. This is wrong and is a gross disregard of human life. Death as a solution is used by humans due to not having Godlike superpowers to create nondeath options. Example: God could have teleported the Pharaoh to an island in the pacific instead of killing 1st born babies. But that make for a really boring story. EVen if real, God is ridiculous in deliberately being dramatic for better entertainment value.
From: RogerN on 15 Apr 2010 22:58 "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.26316dc25a5dcbe49897d2(a)209.197.12.12... > In article <RYWdnZRV6r4aFFrWnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, > regor(a)midwest.net says... >> >> "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message >> news:MPG.263028a618567fec9897cb(a)209.197.12.12... >> > In article <la6bs5dnqimr5i58ipnsfasq1mb463998k(a)4ax.com>, >> > jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... >> >> >> > Christians have a base for racism if they regard nonchristians as >> > afterlifeless. >> > >> > A nicer religion would wish all the best in whatever happens after >> > one's >> > molecules return to the earth regardless of faith or lack of.. >> > As opposed to 'Join our Christian religion or your no afterlife for >> > you.' >> > >> > Christian engineers are ridiculous to regard nonChristians as the >> > afterlifeless. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > D from BC >> > British Columbia >> >> >> So, which race has evolved superior and which ones hinder evolution and >> need >> to be killed? >> >> RogerN > > Nobody is getting killed.. That's from your Christian programming. > > God uses death as solution. (God kills over 2million people in the > bible) > Jesus uses death as solution. (Forgiveness of all sins.) > > These are characters MOST capable of NOT using death as a solution. > God/Jesus sponsor 'death as a solution' as a GOOD thing. > This is wrong and is a gross disregard of human life. > > Death as a solution is used by humans due to not having Godlike > superpowers to create nondeath options. > > Example: > God could have teleported the Pharaoh to an island in the pacific > instead of killing 1st born babies. > But that make for a really boring story. > > EVen if real, God is ridiculous in deliberately being dramatic for > better entertainment value. > But yet many more have been killed due to Atheism, what's the ratio, more than 50:1? You are ridiculous to claim death caused by God when there have been so many more deaths caused by Atheism. RogerN
From: RogerN on 15 Apr 2010 23:18 "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message news:MPG.26316dc25a5dcbe49897d2(a)209.197.12.12... > In article <RYWdnZRV6r4aFFrWnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, > regor(a)midwest.net says... >> >> "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message >> news:MPG.263028a618567fec9897cb(a)209.197.12.12... >> > In article <la6bs5dnqimr5i58ipnsfasq1mb463998k(a)4ax.com>, >> > jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... >> >> >> > Christians have a base for racism if they regard nonchristians as >> > afterlifeless. >> > >> > A nicer religion would wish all the best in whatever happens after >> > one's >> > molecules return to the earth regardless of faith or lack of.. >> > As opposed to 'Join our Christian religion or your no afterlife for >> > you.' >> > >> > Christian engineers are ridiculous to regard nonChristians as the >> > afterlifeless. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > D from BC >> > British Columbia >> >> >> So, which race has evolved superior and which ones hinder evolution and >> need >> to be killed? >> >> RogerN > > Nobody is getting killed.. That's from your Christian programming. > > God uses death as solution. (God kills over 2million people in the > bible) > Jesus uses death as solution. (Forgiveness of all sins.) > > These are characters MOST capable of NOT using death as a solution. > God/Jesus sponsor 'death as a solution' as a GOOD thing. > This is wrong and is a gross disregard of human life. > > Death as a solution is used by humans due to not having Godlike > superpowers to create nondeath options. > > Example: > God could have teleported the Pharaoh to an island in the pacific > instead of killing 1st born babies. > But that make for a really boring story. > > EVen if real, God is ridiculous in deliberately being dramatic for > better entertainment value. > Found this for you: But why should we allow the atheist to even use the Crusades and such as evidence in their claim that most human suffering and death has been caused by religion. It plainly is not true. What I want to do is offer a detailed listing of human death from the 18th century through the 20th century and see if the claim is true. Yes, we'll also look at the Crusades, the witch hunts and the Inquisition. DEATH TOLLS 18th Century Slave Trade a.. Atlantic slave trade: ca. 5,000,000 transported and 8,100,000 died. b.. Islamic slave trade: ca. 1,300,000 transported and 2,000,000 died. Seven Years War (1755-63) a.. 1 million, 300,000 French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars (1792-1802) a.. Estimated 3-4 million And these wars were supposed to be about bringing "freedom" to civilized men. War of the Spanish Succession (1701-13) a.. 1 million, 324,300 Yet another non-religious war As we leave the 1700s don't forget all of the many, many other events -- all non-religious where hairless apes killed other hairless apes. On to the 19th century... 19th Century Slave Trade a.. Atlantic slave trade: ca. 1.6M transported and 2.5M deaths. b.. Islamic slave trade: ca. 2M transported and 3M died. Venezuela, power struggles (1830-1903) a.. 1 million Colonial El Ni�o Famines (1876-1900) a.. 31-61 million American Civil War (1861-65) a.. Over 600,000 Paraguay, War of the Triple Alliance (1864-70) a.. Over 1 million or more than 80% of its population Maybe it gets better when we get to the 20th century??? I mean, mankind becomes so much more advanced....well at least advanced at killing each other. a.. WWI (1914-18)= 15 million (half of that is non-military death) and this is a low estimate b.. Russian Civil War (1917-22) = 9 million c.. Soviet Union, Stalin's regime (1924-53) = 20-51 million (the Soviets were decidedly "atheistic", right?) d.. WWII (1937-45) = 55 million (yet another non-religious war) e.. Post-War Expulsion of Germans from East Europe (1945-47) = 2 million, 100,000 f.. Chinese Civil War (1945-49) = 2 million, 500,000 (another not so "civil" war) g.. People's Republic of China, Mao Zedong's regime (1949-1975) = 40 million (again an "atheist" thing) h.. Tibet (1950 et seq.) = 600,000 (China imposing "atheism" on others) i.. Korean War (1950-53) = 2 million, 800,000 j.. North Korea (1948 et seq.) = 1 million, 663,000 (not even warring, just imposing "atheism" on its own people) k.. Rwanda and Burundi (1959-95) = 1 million 350,000 l.. Second Indochina War [including Vietnam] (1960-75) = 3 million, 500,000 m.. Ethiopia (1962-92) = 1 million, 400,000 n.. Afghanistan (1979-2001) = 1 million, 800,000 (Soviets trying to impose "atheism" again) o.. Sudan (1983 et seq.) = 1 million, 900,000 (no more slave trade deaths, so they start killing each other??) p.. Kinshasa Congo (1998 et seq.) = 3 million 800,000 Shall I go on? Just to be fair, how about those "Crusades"??? (which in reality was less about Christianity and more about securing wealth) Certainly that had to be the biggest death toll, since according to atheists, most people have died due to "religions". Or how about the "Witch hunts" or the Inquisition? That should really push up the numbers eh? a.. Crusades (1095-1291) = 1-5 million b.. Witch Hunts (1400-1800) = est 20-100 thousand c.. Spanish Inquisition (1478-1834) = est 32 thousand Wow, I guess the hairless apes have Christians beat when it comes to killing. So you see, the claim that most human suffering has been caused by religion, is just plain false. Don't let anyone use this argument ever again. sources: http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wars18c.htm http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/wars19c.htm http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat2.htm http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat0.htm
From: D from BC on 16 Apr 2010 00:25 In article <MPG.263165332ffa97559897d1(a)209.197.12.12>, myrealaddress(a)comic.com says... > > In article <H4GdnVP0Cv7v4lrWnZ2dnUVZ_sUAAAAA(a)supernews.com>, > eather(a)tpg.com.au says... > > > > On 15/04/2010 2:18 PM, D from BC wrote: > > > In article<qf7bs59hgioii5viskovjmr59qsafk8dmo(a)4ax.com>, > > > jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... > > >>>> Do you know the difference between 'literal' and 'figurative'? > > >> > > > > > > The difference between literal and figurative..for Christians is: > > > If something in the bible is immoral,unjust, unethical or just plain > > > nuts then it's meant to be taken figuratively. > > > If something in the bible is moral,true,sane or ethical then it's meant > > > to be taken literally or figuratively. > > > Nothing in the bible is to be taken figuratively to mean something > > > immoral, unjust or just plain nuts. > > > It's just superduper that way. > > > > > > iirc the bible was written in a now dead language translated into 1600's > > > English. > > > > > > You've already been told to get a decent (modern) translation and work > > from that - you dimwit. > > A translation is best fit to English. > After that, the bible is still needs 'spin doctor' work to reduce the > lunacy, violence and immoral behavior of a God and it's followers. > > For example... > God said to Adam/Eve that they would die if the ate the fruit. > Serpent says 'You won't die.' > Adam/Eve ate and didn't die. > 'Die' is too be taken figuratively. > God and the serpent are not liars. > > Ref to NLT > ' 2 "Of course we may eat fruit from the trees in the garden," the woman > replied.3 "It's only the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden > that we are not allowed to eat. God said, 'You must not eat it or even > touch it; if you do, you will die.'" > 4 "You won't die!" the serpent replied to the woman.5 "God knows that > your eyes will be opened as soon as you eat it, and you will be like > God, knowing both good and evil. ' > > This is no book sanctioned by 38000 Christian denominations as to being > the indisputable reference in understanding the figurative content in > the bible. > There is no book sanctioned by 38000 Christian denominations as to being the indisputable reference in understanding the figurative content in the bible.
From: D from BC on 16 Apr 2010 01:29
In article <ed8bs556c59ch2e2dntcfmqhf78j6i0i7a(a)4ax.com>, jfields(a)austininstruments.com says... > >A father lets his only son do 'suicide by cop'. > > --- > Nope. > > "Suicide by cop" involves physically threatening authority with the > capability of using deadly force in order to be killed. > > Notice that Pilate found Jesus innocent of any capital offense and after > handing him over to the mob for political reasons, symbolically washed > his hands of the whole affair. > --- > 'Suicide by cop' is a better fit than suicide. 1st. Jesus threatened the leaders of the current faith with another faith. 2nd. Jesus was jumping around those people with a big target on his back. It's the same as jumping in front of cops until you get shot. Even if not suicide, God uses 'death as a solution' (Jesus made dead) which sets a poor example for the respect of human life. God's disrespect for life is amplified when God doesn't use the superpower to create non-death solutions. Christian engineers are ridiculous in praising an all powerful God not all powerful in non-death solutions. -- D from BC British Columbia |