Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Darrell Stec on 20 Jun 2008 06:35 rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 19, 8:22 am, Darrell Stec <darrell_s...(a)webpagesorcery.com> > wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> > On Jun 18, 3:50 pm, Darrell Stec <darrell_s...(a)webpagesorcery.com> >> > wrote: >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> > On Jun 18, 10:11�am, Darrell Stec <darrell_s...(a)webpagesorcery.com> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> >> > On Jun 17, 2:53�am, Darrell Stec >> >> >> > <darrell_s...(a)webpagesorcery.com> >> >> >> >> >> > Well, I analyzed the Bible. �What I find is that God would not >> >> >> >> > want His children to die and just cease to be or to be >> >> >> >> > punished forever, so He sent his Son to overcome death. >> >> >> >> > �Because of wickedness, we see today that most people will >> >> >> >> > reject God's gift of eternal life. Robert B. Winn >> >> >> >> >> Let me ask you a question. �Who would know more about LDS >> >> >> >> theology, one of the churches twelve apostles, or a Hari Krishna >> >> >> >> monk> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> > Who do you think would know more about LDS theology? �Why do you >> >> >> > ask? Robert B. Winn >> >> >> >> Evasion noted. �Why are you afraid to answer a couple of easy >> >> >> questions? Why do you think I would ask? �Could it be the answer >> >> >> might be obvious? >> >> >> > Well, if the answer is obvious, then there was no reason to ask the >> >> > question. Go ahead and say whatever you were going to say. >> >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> >> Why are you afraid to tell us whether or not one of the 12 apostles of >> >> the Mormon church would know more about LDS theology than an Hari >> >> Krishna monk? What are you afraid of? I know the answer, but I don't >> >> know if you do and that is why I am asking. >> >> >> -- >> >> Later, >> >> Darrell Stec dars...(a)neo.rr.com >> >> > Well, why don't you just make up your own mind about that? >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> I already have made an informed and knowledgeable opinion. I am trying >> to find out what you believe (asking what you think would be unfair >> because you are shooting without bullets) to be the case. Why are you >> afraid to answer the question? Is it because it has never been discussed >> in bible school and you have nothing to copy and paste? Go ask your >> bishop what he thinks, as you allow others to think for you until you >> pull stupid things out of thin air. >> >> -- > Well, why don't you ask my bishop yourself? What is his name, email address, physical address and phone number and I will ask him. I'll also send him a list of your more insane postings. > I told you athiests > before that I was not going to be your researcher. What research do you need to do to answer a question as to whether an apostle of your church's council of twelve would know more about LDS philosophy than a Hari Krishna monk? That is a person opinion. Or do you mean that nobody told you what to think in regard to the question so you can't copy and paste it? > If you want to know what I believe,I can give you name to the > missionaries as a referral , and they can tell you what I beleive. Why can't you give us your opinion yourself? Why are you having so many problems answering an easy question? What are you afraid of? > Robert B. Winn -- Later, Darrell Stec darstec(a)neo.rr.com Webpage Sorcery http://webpagesorcery.com We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
From: TT on 20 Jun 2008 08:34 rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 19, 5:55 am, TT <tte...(a)wowway.com> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> Well, go ahead and talk about God, but I can tell you ahead of time, >>> you do not know anything about God. No atheist does. >>> Robert B. Winn >> nahh...we'll discus what we want...you choose your fiction..and >> that's all you have been expressing faith in..nothing else...and we'll >> point out our fiction...and we won't base a worldview on our inability >> to deal with reality like you do....Don't like it? Pray for >> us...otherwise..tough... >> >> -- >> �Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the >> question, 'Is it politic?' But conscience asks the question, 'Is it >> right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is >> neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but because conscience tells one >> it is right.� >> Martin Luther king Jr.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Well, people would do better if they learned to do their own praying. > Robert B. Winn Thinking is preferred by everyone else here..it actually does something... -- �Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the question, 'Is it politic?' But conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but because conscience tells one it is right.� Martin Luther king Jr.
From: TT on 20 Jun 2008 08:38 rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 19, 8:30 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: >> On Jun 20, 10:00 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jun 19, 12:06�am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>> <snip> >>>>> Well, what you are saying is that the Biblical account of the Assyrian >>>>> invasion of Judea is fiction. �What part of it do you claim is >>>>> fiction? �So far we have discussed the earthen ramp and Hezekiah's >>>>> tunnel. �Are you still claiming that those are fiction? >>>> You're still claiming London doesn't exist, huh? >>>> I don't know either account, so really don't have an opinion. Have you >>>> considered that maybe neither account is accurate? If pressed, I would >>>> go with the explanation with the best evidential support. I don't have a >>>> reason to decide at this point. >>>> Happy to be agnostic on something! >>> OK, well, my opinion is that unless an atheist has an opinion about >>> Hezekiah's tunnel and the earthen ramp, it is a waste of time to try >>> to discuss the Bible with that person. >>> Robert B. Winn >> Then why do you keep trying to discuss the bible with everyone? You >> were the one to raise the issue of the tunnel. No-one since has >> argued that the tunnel doesn't exist. Was there some other detail of >> the tunnel you wanted to discuss? The methods of stone work maybe? >> The previous two water courses? >> > Well, atheists were saying the Bible was not true. So I just pointed > out that it was true. Atheists became very upset that I would say > this. > Robert B. Winn Don't misread laughter and derision as being upset... -- “Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the question, 'Is it politic?' But conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but because conscience tells one it is right.” Martin Luther king Jr.
From: Alex W. on 20 Jun 2008 08:36 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:800cdb08-983a-484d-a96b-d2e4186f22d6(a)25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... I do not care what you believe. You need to decide for yourself. I have only met one atheist who converted to Christianity in my life. She said she was staying in a hotel and started reading the scriptures that were in the hotel dresser drawer. ================ And let that be a lesson to you, boys and girls: always choose hotels that offer free HBO.
From: Alex W. on 20 Jun 2008 08:44
"rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:91aff9de-ef71-4690-8e27-742500d48b32(a)b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... Well, you atheists have some strange ideas. Your problem is that all you have is talk. We have the Bible. ============= OK then, different tack. What do you have? What is the Bible? What makes up the Bible? Who decided what is and is not part of the Bible? Even if you believe, how can you TRUST a collection of documents that were transcribed from oral tradition, that have been edited, redacted, translated from previous translations, whose components were added or omitted according to pervailing theological fashion over several millennia? |