Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Steve O on 19 Jun 2008 13:21 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:81b43f22-3a29-4b8e-b9f2-819f09384aa1(a)u6g2000prc.googlegroups.com... > I do not get flattered by atheists. If you do not believe in God, > prove it. Find something else to talk about. > Robert B. Winn I can certainly prove to you that I do not believe in God. -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the face, you can see a burnt tortilla"
From: Steve O on 19 Jun 2008 13:24 "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:6bv3mkF3d7350U1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "Free Lunch" <lunch(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote in message > news:e1cj549ar4tpoi7d34brkf5fku9tp0up1a(a)4ax.com... >> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:50:50 +0100, "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote >> in alt.atheism: >> > > >>>I don't need to imagine Marmite. I eat it every day. God's food. Puts >>>hair on your chest. >> >> Is God evil in your pantheon? > > Au contraire -- Marmite and its colonial variant Vegemite are signs of > divine favour! It's heaven-sent manna to sustain the British Empire on > its manifest destiny of carrying the white man's burden. A slice of toast > with Marmite and a cup of Yorkshire Gold Blend tea for breakfast give us > the strength to go forth and bring the blessings of civilisation and > cricket to the benighted peoples of the world. With Marmite in our > bellies, we fear nothing, even ugly native mobs armed with bananas or > loganberries! Oh COME on Alex- we all know Marmite tastes like something you'd scrape out of a sumo wrestler's jockstrap. If you want a Marmite war, buddy, bring it on!!!! -- Steve O a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) B.A.A.W.A. Convicted by Earthquack "I have a miraculous picture of Jesus - if you look really closely at the face, you can see a burnt tortilla"
From: Antares 531 on 19 Jun 2008 13:41 On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:21:10 +0100, "Steve O" <nospamhere(a)thanks.com> wrote: > > >"rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message >news:81b43f22-3a29-4b8e-b9f2-819f09384aa1(a)u6g2000prc.googlegroups.com... > >> I do not get flattered by atheists. If you do not believe in God, >> prove it. Find something else to talk about. >> Robert B. Winn > >I can certainly prove to you that I do not believe in God. > I'm sure yours was a fully volitional choice, made possible by reason of the evidence being quite well balanced to support a decision in either direction. You weren't overwhelmed and forced to knuckle under, as would certainly have been the situation had there been rock solid objective evidence that you could not overwhelm. I still don't understand how life could have started, spontaneously, and why there was such a flourish of what seems to have been a very well orchestrated explosion of life forms during the Cambrian period, unless there was an intelligent designer in control. Gordon
From: Alex W. on 19 Jun 2008 14:10 "Smiler" <Smiler(a)Joe.King.com> wrote in message news:0gj6k.4355$Nn.945(a)newsfe09.ams2... > > "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:6btov1F3bfnvbU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >> "Smiler" <Smiler(a)Joe.King.com> wrote in message >> news:cbh6k.25015$GF6.7689(a)newsfe27.ams2... >>> >>> "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:6br2q9F3cun1hU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> >>>> "Smiler" <Smiler(a)Joe.King.com> wrote in message >>>> news:JuY5k.18241$GF6.13788(a)newsfe27.ams2... >>>>> >>>>> "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>> news:6bqug1F3d3mb3U1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Smiler" <Smiler(a)Joe.King.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:%3H5k.124800$TL1.74387(a)newsfe21.ams2... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwhipp(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in >>>>>>> message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> I haven't got any slugs. :-( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can assure you that you're not missing anything. >>>>>>> The buggers eat their fill of our vegetables as they grow. >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you tried drowning them? >>>>>> Half-fill a jam jar with beer, bury it close to the vegetables, and >>>>>> wait for the slugs to suffer a death far more pleasant than they >>>>>> deserve. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I've heard of that, but haven't tried it yet. >>>>> Which do they prefer? Real ale or Lager :-) >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'd suggest Speckled Hen. >>>> That way, once you have filled the death-trap, you can enjoy the rest >>>> yourself. >>>> >>> >>> I've never acquired the taste for ale. I prefer cider or wine. >>> That may be because, in my youth, I worked in a laboratory where they >>> were extracting the bittering component from hops. >>> Imagine green/black 'Marmite' with the most intense bitter taste you can >>> imagine. Yeuck! >>> I think I may like 'Real' beer...ale without hops... but I've never >>> found anywhere that sells it. >>> Even the 'homebrew' kits have the hop extract already mixed in with the >>> malt :-( >> >> I don't need to imagine Marmite. I eat it every day. God's food. Puts >> hair on your chest. >> >> I'm not sure if it would work with any other alcoholic drink; I suppose >> you could try some sweet wine. Cider is better not wasted on slugs >> (unless it's that commercial abomination Magner's, in which case I'd >> recommend using it to wash your urinal cakes) > > Or Autumn Gold...you turn yellow and fall 'out of your tree' :-) A fate worse than death .... > > -- much better to drink it yourself. After the >> third pint of scrumpy, you simply won't care about slugs .... > > If it's good scrumpy, I don't get as far as the third pint! Fair point! > > A West Country publican once told my father about the Northern 'beer > drinkers' that come to his pub. > They try a pint of scrumpy and say "It tastes nice but it's weak!". After > a few pints, at closing time, they walk into the fresh air and immediately > collapse in a heap on the floor! Yep, been there, done that. Best scrumpy I ever had came in plastic gallon jugs from a farmer selling them by the roadside. You could still taste the rat that drowned in it. Amazing stuff .... what little I can remember. > >> >> Farmer's markets sometimes have a stall selling real ale and other such >> liquids. Might be worth a look .... >> > > Not the one's round E17. > Sometime the 'French' market has a stall selling French apple juice and > cider, but no beer or ale at any I've been to. E17? Ye gods .... I had to go look that up, it's so far out. :-)
From: BuddyThunder on 19 Jun 2008 15:50
rbwinn wrote: <snip> >> Because I see no good reason to believe in them. The tunnel and ramp's >> existence don't change that.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Well, you either believe in God, or you do not. If I did not believe > in something, I would find something else to discuss. The only thing > you want to talk about is God. I say, Here is a ramp and a tunnel. > You say, I want to talk about God. > Well, go ahead and talk about God, but I can tell you ahead of time, > you do not know anything about God. No atheist does. > Robert B. Winn Beliefs should represent some state of knowledge about the world. <shrug> Presumably, no atheist has ever converted to your religion? By your standards, they would have to have faked it. Maybe belief came later? Tunnels and ramps out of context just aren't that interesting. We have them here, I drive through tunnels often, and ramps get me on and off the motorway. They're fairly dull. |