Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 20 Jun 2008 03:15 On Jun 19, 8:35 pm, Darrell Stec <darrell_s...(a)webpagesorcery.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jun 18, 11:17�pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >> > On Jun 18, 1:08 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >>>> The tunnel, in an historical context 'could be called a fake'? > >> >>>> The ramp in an historical context 'could be called a fake'? > >> >>> That is correct, and in fact an atheist a few years back did claim > >> >>> that Hezekiah's tunnel was a hoax. � But we have to look at the world > >> >>> today and consider, who would move the amount of dirt in the ramp or > >> >>> dig a tunnel just to perpetrate a hoax? �The Biblical account is the > >> >>> correct one. > >> >> Did you find one? A tunnel-denier?! I'd LOVE to see the post!! I think > >> >> I'd frame the freakin' thing! > > >> >> Your conclusion is faulty. It MIGHT be right, but it likely isn't.- > >> >> Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> > Well, it is not faulty. �Where are you going to find people today who > >> > would make a ramp or a tunnel without being paid a lot of money? > >> > Back then, they were working pretty much without pay. > > >> Can you produce that post? I really would love to see it, it might quell > >> those cries of "liar!" for a bit. :-) > > >> Not sure what point you're making about the sites. Can you expand on it?- > >> Hide quoted text - > > > Some atheist a couple of years ago claimed that Hezekiah's tunnel was > > a hoax perpetrated by Jerusalem tour guides. > > Robert B. Winn > > Why are you lying?  Who was this atheist and what message ID was the > article? > Mark something. Look it up yourself. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 20 Jun 2008 03:17 On Jun 19, 8:36 pm, Darrell Stec <darrell_s...(a)webpagesorcery.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jun 18, 11:45 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >> > On Jun 18, 12:13�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:87b0e53d-5a57-49b1-b3d0-a331560793fb(a)c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com.... > > >> >>> On Jun 17, 10:37 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > >> >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >>>>news:d6db0a86-413e-4057-a2cf-40363e9b8a34(a)a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com.... > >> >>>>> Well some people might not be convinced by your video footage. > >> >>>>> There are many people who believe that the Apollo moon landings > >> >>>>> were faked. Robert B. Winn > >> >>>> It's not my fault if other people have mental health problems or are > >> >>>> gullible enough to swallow any wild- assed claim they come across.. > >> >>>> Anyway, if my video footage is insufficient evidence, what makes > >> >>>> your 2,000 > >> >>>> year old book o' blood and that silly Mormon bible more convincing? > >> >>> Well, you atheists did not do very well with regard to the Assyrian > >> >>> invasion of Judea. > >> >> I can assure you we had absolutely nothing to do with it. > > >> >>> The Bible seems to have its facts a lot straighter > >> >>> than you atheists do. > >> >> There are very few facts in the bible at all. > >> >> It is a magic story based around real (and sometimes non- existent ) > >> >> locations. > > >> >>> Was there some other specific thing that you > >> >>> atheists wanted to discuss? > >> >> How about your inability to differentiate fantasy from reality? > > >> > I think I do fairly well.  Hezekiah's tunnel is real.  The earthen > >> > ramp over the city wall at Lachish is real.  Harry Potter is not real. > > >> Ah, but London is! Is the Bible? It may be, we haven't refuted anything > >> yet. But your logic is not supportive of your claims.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > I actually know a man from London, England.  I make doors and window > > frames for him sometimes.  He soes not believe in Harry Potter either. > > Robert B. Winn > > What is his name and address?  I think you are lying. > > -- His name is Stuart Dowling, and he lives in Maricopa, Arizona. Robert B. Winn
From: Darrell Stec on 20 Jun 2008 06:15 rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 19, 8:34�am, Darrell Stec <darrell_s...(a)webpagesorcery.com> > wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> > On Jun 18, 3:54�pm, Darrell Stec <darrell_s...(a)webpagesorcery.com> >> > wrote: > >> Right now, just about every reader on these newsgroups is convinced you >> are nothing but a liar and cannot defend your absurd statements by >> providing evidence. >> >> > Well, I >> > could not remember Andrew and Thaddeus when I tried to think of them. >> > What do we do now? >> >> Read your bible and tell us the names of the twelve apostles (which you >> claim, not I). �Why are you avoiding answering this very easy question? >> �Is it because you actually know you cannot reliably number them even >> using the bible? �Is it because you actually know you cannot reliably >> name them even using the bible? >> >> > Robert B. Winn > > Well, I have seen atheists gert worked up about this before. What > difference does it make to an atheist? I thought you did not believe > in the apostles. So why are you so worried about what their names > were? > Robert B. Winn Just to demonstrate that you are a liar and cannot name them. You are wrong about the number and wrong about the fact you can name them. Being an atheist has nothing to do about investigating the contents of a work of literature, fiction, that has been handed down through the millenia. I don't have to believe any events in The Lord of Rings to actually discuss the contents of the trilogy while at the same time I can challenge someone who might assert that Gandalf wore a robe of purple and pink where the story does not provide evidence of it. Using your logic, nobody would study any literature that was a work of fiction if they did not believe the contents were true and if they believed that evidence could not be provided to back up the stories. You do know that both private and public schools require studying the fictional stories of Shakesphere, don't you? -- Later, Darrell Stec darstec(a)neo.rr.com Webpage Sorcery http://webpagesorcery.com We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
From: Darrell Stec on 20 Jun 2008 06:17 rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 19, 8:35 pm, Darrell Stec <darrell_s...(a)webpagesorcery.com> > wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> > On Jun 18, 11:17�pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> > On Jun 18, 1:08 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> >>>> The tunnel, in an historical context 'could be called a fake'? >> >> >>>> The ramp in an historical context 'could be called a fake'? >> >> >>> That is correct, and in fact an atheist a few years back did claim >> >> >>> that Hezekiah's tunnel was a hoax. � But we have to look at the >> >> >>> world today and consider, who would move the amount of dirt in the >> >> >>> ramp or dig a tunnel just to perpetrate a hoax? �The Biblical >> >> >>> account is the correct one. >> >> >> Did you find one? A tunnel-denier?! I'd LOVE to see the post!! I >> >> >> think I'd frame the freakin' thing! >> >> >> >> Your conclusion is faulty. It MIGHT be right, but it likely isn't.- >> >> >> Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> > Well, it is not faulty. �Where are you going to find people today >> >> > who would make a ramp or a tunnel without being paid a lot of money? >> >> > Back then, they were working pretty much without pay. >> >> >> Can you produce that post? I really would love to see it, it might >> >> quell those cries of "liar!" for a bit. :-) >> >> >> Not sure what point you're making about the sites. Can you expand on >> >> it?- Hide quoted text - >> >> > Some atheist a couple of years ago claimed that Hezekiah's tunnel was >> > a hoax perpetrated by Jerusalem tour guides. >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> Why are you lying? Who was this atheist and what message ID was the >> article? >> > Mark something. Look it up yourself. > Robert B. Winn I did. There was no such person. You are lying. Show us the post. It should be easy for you because all you would have to do is show your very first post in which you addressed this supposed Mark. -- Later, Darrell Stec darstec(a)neo.rr.com Webpage Sorcery http://webpagesorcery.com We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
From: Darrell Stec on 20 Jun 2008 06:29
rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 19, 8:36 pm, Darrell Stec <darrell_s...(a)webpagesorcery.com> > wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >> > On Jun 18, 11:45 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> > On Jun 18, 12:13�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:87b0e53d-5a57-49b1-b3d0-a331560793fb(a)c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >>> On Jun 17, 10:37 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> >> >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> >>>>news:d6db0a86-413e-4057-a2cf-40363e9b8a34(a)a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >> >> >>>>> Well some people might not be convinced by your video footage. >> >> >>>>> There are many people who believe that the Apollo moon landings >> >> >>>>> were faked. Robert B. Winn >> >> >>>> It's not my fault if other people have mental health problems or >> >> >>>> are gullible enough to swallow any wild- assed claim they come >> >> >>>> across. Anyway, if my video footage is insufficient evidence, >> >> >>>> what makes your 2,000 >> >> >>>> year old book o' blood and that silly Mormon bible more >> >> >>>> convincing? >> >> >>> Well, you atheists did not do very well with regard to the >> >> >>> Assyrian invasion of Judea. >> >> >> I can assure you we had absolutely nothing to do with it. >> >> >> >>> The Bible seems to have its facts a lot straighter >> >> >>> than you atheists do. >> >> >> There are very few facts in the bible at all. >> >> >> It is a magic story based around real (and sometimes non- existent >> >> >> ) locations. >> >> >> >>> Was there some other specific thing that you >> >> >>> atheists wanted to discuss? >> >> >> How about your inability to differentiate fantasy from reality? >> >> >> > I think I do fairly well. Hezekiah's tunnel is real. The earthen >> >> > ramp over the city wall at Lachish is real. Harry Potter is not >> >> > real. >> >> >> Ah, but London is! Is the Bible? It may be, we haven't refuted >> >> anything yet. But your logic is not supportive of your claims.- Hide >> >> quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > I actually know a man from London, England. I make doors and window >> > frames for him sometimes. He soes not believe in Harry Potter either. >> > Robert B. Winn >> >> What is his name and address? I think you are lying. >> >> -- > His name is Stuart Dowling, and he lives in Maricopa, Arizona. > Robert B. Winn Hmmmmmm. No official documents exist for a Stuart Dowling in Maricopa, AZ. No lawsuits, no traffic tickets, no street address, no telephone number, nothing. You are lying again. I doubt you know anybody that does not believe the Harry Potter books exist or does not believe London exists. -- Later, Darrell Stec darstec(a)neo.rr.com Webpage Sorcery http://webpagesorcery.com We Put the Magic in Your Webpages |