Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 20 Jun 2008 10:27 On Jun 20, 5:34 am, TT <tte...(a)wowway.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jun 19, 5:55 am, TT <tte...(a)wowway.com> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > > >>> Well, go ahead and talk about God, but I can tell you ahead of time, > >>> you do not know anything about God. No atheist does. > >>> Robert B. Winn > >> nahh...we'll discus what we want...you choose your fiction..and > >> that's all you have been expressing faith in..nothing else...and we'll > >> point out our fiction...and we won't base a worldview on our inability > >> to deal with reality like you do....Don't like it? Pray for > >> us...otherwise..tough... > > >> -- > >> Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the > >> question, 'Is it politic?' But conscience asks the question, 'Is it > >> right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is > >> neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but because conscience tells one > >> it is right. > >> Martin Luther king Jr.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Well, people would do better if they learned to do their own praying. > > Robert B. Winn > > Thinking is preferred by everyone else here..it actually does > something... > Well, so you think that you can destroy Christianity. That was what this conversation was about when it began. That was why I was pointing out that the Bible was the best selling book in the world. Not so, said atheists. Harry Potter is the best selling book in the world. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 20 Jun 2008 10:32 On Jun 20, 5:44�am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:91aff9de-ef71-4690-8e27-742500d48b32(a)b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > > Well, you atheists have some strange ideas. �Your problem is that all > you have is talk. �We have the Bible. > > ============= > > OK then, different tack. > > What do you have? > What is the Bible? > What makes up the Bible? > Who decided what is and is not part of the Bible? > Even if you believe, how can you TRUST a collection of documents that were > transcribed from oral tradition, that have been edited, redacted, translated > from previous translations, whose components were added or omitted according > to pervailing theological fashion over several millennia? Well, in the church I belong to, we do it because we have further revelation on the same subject. Robert B. Winn
From: Alex W. on 20 Jun 2008 13:26 "Smiler" <Smiler(a)Joe.King.com> wrote in message news:FtD6k.80306$1B6.35348(a)newsfe21.ams2... > > "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:6bvlrtF3d3pboU1(a)mid.individual.net... > The best cider I ever tasted was from a pub in Kent almost 50 years ago. > There was a barrel on the bar, covered in a damp towel to keep it cool. > The liquid was dark brown and cloudy, but tasted like sweet apple nectar. > A half pint of that was enought to make my youthful self quite merry ;-). > You can't buy stuff like that today, as it was unpasteurised. The nearest > I've had since was in a quayside pub in Polperro, Cornwall in 1976. I went > back a couple of years later, but they'd stopped selling it. You can still buy it, but not in a pub. Farmers in the West Country will still sell homebrew if you ask nicely and don't look like a ministry inspector ... > >>>> >>>> Farmer's markets sometimes have a stall selling real ale and other such >>>> liquids. Might be worth a look .... >>>> >>> >>> Not the one's round E17. >>> Sometime the 'French' market has a stall selling French apple juice and >>> cider, but no beer or ale at any I've been to. >> >> E17? >> Ye gods .... I had to go look that up, it's so far out. >> :-) >> > > You must live in one of the London toilets (WC1 or WC2). Let me put it this way: as far as I am concerned, anything North of Hyde park is suspiciously close to Watford Gap which, as everybody knows, is the official gateway to the Midlands with its pits of grimy doom like Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Accrington Stanley or <gasp with horror> Newcastle.
From: TT on 20 Jun 2008 15:15 rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 20, 5:34 am, TT <tte...(a)wowway.com> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jun 19, 5:55 am, TT <tte...(a)wowway.com> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> Well, go ahead and talk about God, but I can tell you ahead of time, >>>>> you do not know anything about God. No atheist does. >>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>> nahh...we'll discus what we want...you choose your fiction..and >>>> that's all you have been expressing faith in..nothing else...and we'll >>>> point out our fiction...and we won't base a worldview on our inability >>>> to deal with reality like you do....Don't like it? Pray for >>>> us...otherwise..tough... >>>> -- >>>> �Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the >>>> question, 'Is it politic?' But conscience asks the question, 'Is it >>>> right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is >>>> neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but because conscience tells one >>>> it is right.� >>>> Martin Luther king Jr.- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> Well, people would do better if they learned to do their own praying. >>> Robert B. Winn >> Thinking is preferred by everyone else here..it actually does >> something... >> > Well, so you think that you can destroy Christianity. That was what > this conversation was about when it began. That was why I was > pointing out that the Bible was the best selling book in the world. > Not so, said atheists. Harry Potter is the best selling book in the > world. > Robert B. Winn Christianity is nothing...it's not worth the energy to destroy...and we deftly pointed out the difference between a cult that buys truckloads of it's own book(and then rarely reads) and books that are purchased by people to actually read...but your head never the hole in the sand... -- �Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the question, 'Is it politic?' But conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but because conscience tells one it is right.� Martin Luther king Jr.
From: rbwinn on 20 Jun 2008 16:30
On Jun 20, 12:15 pm, TT <tte...(a)wowway.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jun 20, 5:34 am, TT <tte...(a)wowway.com> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jun 19, 5:55 am, TT <tte...(a)wowway.com> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> Well, go ahead and talk about God, but I can tell you ahead of time, > >>>>> you do not know anything about God. No atheist does. > >>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>> nahh...we'll discus what we want...you choose your fiction..and > >>>> that's all you have been expressing faith in..nothing else...and we'll > >>>> point out our fiction...and we won't base a worldview on our inability > >>>> to deal with reality like you do....Don't like it? Pray for > >>>> us...otherwise..tough... > >>>> -- > >>>> Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the > >>>> question, 'Is it politic?' But conscience asks the question, 'Is it > >>>> right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is > >>>> neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but because conscience tells one > >>>> it is right. > >>>> Martin Luther king Jr.- Hide quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >>> Well, people would do better if they learned to do their own praying. > >>> Robert B. Winn > >> Thinking is preferred by everyone else here..it actually does > >> something... > > > Well, so you think that you can destroy Christianity. That was what > > this conversation was about when it began. That was why I was > > pointing out that the Bible was the best selling book in the world. > > Not so, said atheists. Harry Potter is the best selling book in the > > world. > > Robert B. Winn > > Christianity is nothing...it's not worth the energy to > destroy...and we deftly pointed out the difference between a cult that > buys truckloads of it's own book(and then rarely reads) and books that > are purchased by people to actually read...but your head never the hole > in the sand... > > -- > Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the > question, 'Is it politic?' But conscience asks the question, 'Is it > right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is > neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but because conscience tells one > it is right. > Martin Luther king Jr.- Hide quoted text - I see. As opposed to Harry Potter books, which are always read and believed. Well, you may have something there. Robert B. Winn |