From: rbwinn on
On Jul 20, 4:14�pm, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message
>
> news:687ca38c-4867-4462-a5df-6aa3d37abc66(a)c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 20, 9:59?am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:85ce5d7c-67c2-4090-8fd1-14d9b48f203d(a)34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > ?There are only two commandments in the Law of Christ:
> > Love the Lord thy God, Love thy neighbor as thyself.
>
> > ========
>
> > Sorry, but I draw the line at giving my neighbour hand jobs.
> > (as he will no doubt be relieved to hear).
>
> Anyone who engages in homosexuality does not love the other person,
> since he is contributing to that person's damnation.
>
> ==============
>
> Sorry, but Jesus tells us otherwise.
> So did you, in fact.
>
> Or are you now telling me that I cannot trust your expert opinion?

I would say that the person you cannot trust is yourself.
Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on
On Jul 20, 4:53�pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net>
> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
> >rbwinn wrote:
> >> On Jul 20, 10:18 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> >>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
>
> >> Paul said it. �He was one of the twelve apostles.
>
> >So, Jesus didn't say it.
>
> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve.

Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why don't you wait
until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was one of the
twelve?
Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on
On Jul 20, 6:36�pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:37:19 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >> > No, it does not. �The right to trial by jury no longer exists.
>
> >> Eh, wha? �Article 3 of the United States Constitution was repealed?
>
> >> > �People
> >> > who commit crimes serious enough to be profitable to lawyers are given
> >> > the privilege of trial by jury. � That means if you commit a murder,
> >> > you can have a lawyer and a trial by jury. �If you are arrested on
> >> > misdemeanor charges by police who have decided to harrass you, you
> >> > cannot get a trial by jury even though the Constitution guarantees you
> >> > that right.
>
> >> Um, no. �You might want to look up the difference between criminal and
> >> civil charges...
>
> >> --
> >I do not need to look anything up. �
>
> <snip>
>
> ...and you sit there, drooling on your keyboard, wondering why no one
> takes you seriously.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Do you think I care what a bunch of atheists think?
Robert B. Winn
From: DanielSan on
rbwinn wrote:
> On Jul 20, 4:53�pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net>
>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>> On Jul 20, 10:18 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
>>>> Paul said it. �He was one of the twelve apostles.
>>> So, Jesus didn't say it.
>> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve.
>
> Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why don't you wait
> until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was one of the
> twelve?

So, which one was Paul?
Peter?
James (son of Zebedee)?
John?
Andrew?
Philip?
Bartholomew?
Matthew?
Thomas?
James (son of Alphaeus)?
Thaddeus
Simon?
Judas?

Let me count that again...yep, that's 12. Which one was Paul?

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From: rbwinn on
On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was
> >>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer.
> >>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in
> >>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power.
> >>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that.
> >>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were
> >>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the
> >>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it
> >>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text -
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> >>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not
> >>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto?
> >>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He
> >>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that
> >>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you
> >>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union.  It is well
> >>>>> documented.
> >>>> And what's that got to do with atheism?
> >>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been
> >>> a Christian by atheists of today.
> >> Don't change the subject.  What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to
> >> atheism?
>
> >> --
> > So what is the matter?  Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists.  They will
> > never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim
> > they were.
> > Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything?
>
> Because what they did is irrelevant to me?  Now, back onto the question
> you are REFUSING to answer:
>
> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the
> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism?
>
> --
It is relevant to atheism because Stalin was an atheist.
Robert B. Winn