Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Tim Ward on 21 Jul 2008 12:26 "Jon Green" <jonsg(a)deadspam.com> wrote in message news:Y5-dneHDC7rxLxnVnZ2dnUVZ8s_inZ2d(a)bt.com... > > Now, how about letting it drop, for pity's sake? Jon, the rest of us killfiled him long ago ... why don't you try it? -- Tim Ward - posting as an individual unless otherwise clear Brett Ward Limited - www.brettward.co.uk Cambridge Accommodation Notice Board - www.brettward.co.uk/canb Cambridge City Councillor
From: Jon Green on 21 Jul 2008 12:39 Tim Ward wrote: > "Jon Green" <jonsg(a)deadspam.com> wrote in message > news:Y5-dneHDC7rxLxnVnZ2dnUVZ8s_inZ2d(a)bt.com... >> Now, how about letting it drop, for pity's sake? > > Jon, the rest of us killfiled him long ago ... why don't you try it? It was silly fun to read the banter, until he turned into a race troll. Jon -- SPAM BLOCK IN USE! To reply in email, replace 'deadspam' with 'green-lines'.
From: Alex W. on 21 Jul 2008 13:30 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:d83608c5-8f45-4abe-a1f5-6801894dccc6(a)e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... On Jul 20, 6:40?pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:10:15 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > > > > >> >> >> >> Why would an "atheistic court system" reward someone who > >> >> >> >> claimed to believe > >> >> >> >> in gods, skippy? > > >> >> >> > Lawyers reward anyone who adds to their power and financial > >> >> >> > security. > > >> >> >> You've got a whole "reward" thing going on at the moment, why is > >> >> >> that?- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >I do not have anything going at the present time. ?Lawyers were the > >> >> >people who started "plea bargaining" and did away with the right to > >> >> >trial by jury. > > >> >> That's odd, because my boss was just on a jury trial last month. I > >> >> guess that makes you a liar again, doesn't it?- Hide quoted text - > > >> >No, it does not. ?The right to trial by jury no longer exists. ? > > >> <snip> > > >> The rest of your psychobabble wasn't even worth reading, particularly > >> when you start with such an idiotic comment. > > >> I guess that old saying is right - A person who acts as their own > >> lawyer has an idiot for a client.. > > >Well, you Europeans love lawyers. ?I would never hire one under any > >circumstances. > > What in tarnation ever gave you the idea that I am from Europe!?!?- Hide > quoted text - > All atheists have European values. The difference between European values and American values is that Europeans believe that people exist to serve governments. Americans believe that governments exist to serve people. ========== Let me guess -- you've never been out of the States, have you? Your picture of Europe comes straight out of "Hollywood Movie Clich� 101". You probably believe that all Frenchmen wear berets and eat garlic and cheese non-stop, that all Germans wear lederhosen, and all Brits have crooked teeth. And your information on Europe and Europeans comes straight from Hollywood, right?
From: z on 21 Jul 2008 13:36 On Jul 14, 2:19 pm, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...(a)swbell.net> wrote: > Alex, I'm sincerely sorry if you've gotten this impression from what > I've posted. To clarify this a bit, let me say that "good" is defined > as that which benefits everyone involved and does no harm to anyone. > "Evil" is defined as that which may benefit the perpetrator, or at > least seem to benefit the perpetrator for the time being, but in the > final analysis it is harmful to others, and maybe even to the > perpetrator. That sounds kind of like "anti-entropy" (for lack of a better term) and entropy.
From: rbwinn on 21 Jul 2008 14:16
On Jul 21, 6:38 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was > >>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in > >>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power. > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that. > >>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were > >>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the > >>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it > >>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not > >>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto? > >>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He > >>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that > >>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you > >>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union.  It is well > >>>>>>> documented. > >>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism? > >>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been > >>>>> a Christian by atheists of today. > >>>> Don't change the subject.  What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to > >>>> atheism? > >>>> -- > >>> So what is the matter?  Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists.  They will > >>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim > >>> they were. > >>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything? > >> Because what they did is irrelevant to me?  Now, back onto the question > >> you are REFUSING to answer: > > >> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the > >> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism? > > >> -- > > It is relevant to atheism because Stalin was an atheist. > > So, is it also relevant to masculinity?  Stalin was a man, after all.... >  Stalin also had a mustache.  Is that relevant, too? > > Oh, Stalin was also born in December.  Is that relevant? > Stalin married a wife.  Is that relevant? > Why don't you just decide for yourself what you think is relevant, Daniel? Robert B. Winn |