Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: DanielSan on 21 Jul 2008 09:38 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was >>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer. >>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in >>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power. >>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that. >>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were >>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the >>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it >>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not >>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto? >>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He >>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that >>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you >>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well >>>>>>> documented. >>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism? >>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been >>>>> a Christian by atheists of today. >>>> Don't change the subject. What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to >>>> atheism? >>>> -- >>> So what is the matter? Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. They will >>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim >>> they were. >>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything? >> Because what they did is irrelevant to me? Now, back onto the question >> you are REFUSING to answer: >> >> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the >> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism? >> >> -- > It is relevant to atheism because Stalin was an atheist. So, is it also relevant to masculinity? Stalin was a man, after all... Stalin also had a mustache. Is that relevant, too? Oh, Stalin was also born in December. Is that relevant? Stalin married a wife. Is that relevant? -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ******************************************************
From: rbwinn on 21 Jul 2008 09:50 On Jul 21, 12:11 am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jul 20, 9:59�am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >>news:85ce5d7c-67c2-4090-8fd1-14d9b48f203d(a)34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com.... > > >> �There are only two commandments in the Law of Christ: > >> Love the Lord thy God, Love thy neighbor as thyself. > > >> ======== > > >> Sorry, but I draw the line at giving my neighbour hand jobs. > >> (as he will no doubt be relieved to hear). > > > Anyone who engages in homosexuality does not love the other person, > > since he is contributing to that person's damnation. > > No evidence backs up this silly claim. > > Why don't you take it up with Einstein when he returns, that idea has > nothing to do with me.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Why would Einstein be interested in homosexuality? Robert B. Winn
From: The Loan Arranger on 21 Jul 2008 10:10 rbwinn wrote: > So why are you trying to set up a theocracy with atheism as the state > religion? There are so many things wrong with that sentence that it's impossible to know where to start! TLA
From: Ben Dolan on 21 Jul 2008 10:34 rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: > All atheists have European values. The difference between European > values and American values is that Europeans believe that people exist > to serve governments. Americans believe that governments exist to > serve people. So, in addition to being a religious crackpot and a physics crackpot, you now fancy yourself to be a political crackpot. Guess that makes a trifecta...
From: Jon Green on 21 Jul 2008 11:59
rbwinn wrote: > All atheists have European values. The difference between European > values and American values is that Europeans believe that people exist > to serve governments. Americans believe that governments exist to > serve people. Might I suggest that you actually visit Europe and learn something about its nations and their peoples, rather than spouting a load of prejudiced and ignorant tripe you read on some far-right religious webshite? By the way, most Ay-rabs aren't terrorists, most Indians don't wear turbans, and none of the very many Chinese I've met has had either yellow skin or a coolie hat. I hope that helps to clear up some other possible misconceptions you might hold. Ben Dolan summed it up nicely in his follow-up, but let me add one or two more observations: you are ignorant of your Bible, of the Christian Church and its history, and of the world and its peoples, but you don't let these things get in the way of expressing your opinions of them; you have the insight of a house brick, but are nowhere as constructive; you hold arguments like a colander holds water; and if we had a whip-round, and every other contributor to this thread offered you a clue, you'd need to check with your Bishop what to do with them. You are the deranged twin in Ned Flanders' attic, and a good reason why people shouldn't store old laptops in the loft. I'd just like to add that I don't consider you typical of LDS members. The ones I've met in person have been polite, intelligent, likeable and showed few signs of daft prejudice. Mormons have been most helpful in my friends' researches, too: more power to their (collective) elbow. What you are doing is damaging the good work that LDS folk have done, and the good reputation that they have created. The reason (I surmise) why people in this thread have been challenging and trolling you is because you have done the equivalent of walking onto a live firing range with a roundel on your chest, shouting insults about the shooters and their immediate families. Talk about the holy fool... Now, how about letting it drop, for pity's sake? Jon -- SPAM BLOCK IN USE! To reply in email, replace 'deadspam' with 'green-lines'. |