Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Free Lunch on 21 Jul 2008 21:51 On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism: >On Jul 21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Jul 20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >rbwinn wrote: >> >> >> On Jul 20, 10:18 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >> >> ... >> >> >> >>> So, Jesus didn't say it. >> >> >> >> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles. >> >> >> >So, Jesus didn't say it. >> >> >> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve. >> >> >Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why don't you wait >> >until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was one of the >> >twelve? >> >> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you insist on making >> a fool of yourself. >> >> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve. >> >> If there were a God, He would strike you down for being such a bad >> example.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul says he is an >apostle. Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many atheists of >today say he was not. Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error. Nowhere in the entire Bible does it say that Paul was one of the Twelve. That was a claim you made up that was not true. Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.
From: Stan-O on 21 Jul 2008 22:01 On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:02:25 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: >> Europeans live as long as Americans -- if not longer -- even though we spend >> half as much as you do on healthcare. >> Unemployment is higher -- but then, losing your job is not a catastrophe. >> We take care of our elderly, our sick, our disabled. >> We earn less -- but we also have to work less, and we carry much less debt. >> Our exports are doing very well -- not least to Americans who appreciate a >> well-built machine. >> Even our new currency is stable and solid(ish). >> >> Yep, we're in really deep doo-doo .... > >Well, you forgot about all of the people who are missing in your >society who were killed by abortion. Without them I do not see much >future for Europe other than what its past has been, a breeding ground >for major wars. It seems to me that most Americans can trace their roots back to Europe, or did you forget that little fact?
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) on 21 Jul 2008 22:03 On Jul 21, 5:44 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Jul 20, 6:40�pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:10:15 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> Why would an "atheistic court system" reward someone who claimed to believe > > >> >> >> >> in gods, skippy? > > > >> >> >> > Lawyers reward anyone who adds to their power and financial security. > > > >> >> >> You've got a whole "reward" thing going on at the moment, why is that?- Hide quoted text - > > > >> >> >I do not have anything going at the present time. ?Lawyers were the > > >> >> >people who started "plea bargaining" and did away with the right to > > >> >> >trial by jury. > > > >> >> That's odd, because my boss was just on a jury trial last month. I > > >> >> guess that makes you a liar again, doesn't it?- Hide quoted text - > > > >> >No, it does not. ?The right to trial by jury no longer exists. ? > > > >> <snip> > > > >> The rest of your psychobabble wasn't even worth reading, particularly > > >> when you start with such an idiotic comment. > > > >> I guess that old saying is right - A person who acts as their own > > >> lawyer has an idiot for a client.. > > > >Well, you Europeans love lawyers. �I would never hire one under any > > >circumstances. > > > What in tarnation ever gave you the idea that I am from Europe!?!?- Hide quoted text - > > All atheists have European values. The difference between European > values and American values is that Europeans believe that people exist > to serve governments. Americans believe that governments exist to > serve people. > Robert B. Winn What an enormous load of bollocks. The idea of the rights of the individual (in western society) came from centuries of slow painful progress by Europeans. Al
From: Stan-O on 21 Jul 2008 22:03 On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:05:18 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: >> >You need to be careful, Stan-O. ?Impersonating a doctor of psychiatry >> >is a crime. >> >> I never claimed to be one, but usenet is hardly the place where >> someone needs to have a slew of letters after their name in order to >> have an opinion. You of all people should know that...- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >Well, show some sincerety in your opinions. Any person is free in the >United States to go to a judge and file a petition for the >institutionalization of a person believed to be insane. Be careful what you wish for, Robert. Be careful.
From: rbwinn on 21 Jul 2008 22:10
On Jul 21, 7:03 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > On Jul 21, 5:44 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 20, 6:40�pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:10:15 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > wrote: > > > > >> >> >> >> Why would an "atheistic court system" reward someone who claimed to believe > > > >> >> >> >> in gods, skippy? > > > > >> >> >> > Lawyers reward anyone who adds to their power and financial security. > > > > >> >> >> You've got a whole "reward" thing going on at the moment, why is that?- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> >> >I do not have anything going at the present time. ?Lawyers were the > > > >> >> >people who started "plea bargaining" and did away with the right to > > > >> >> >trial by jury. > > > > >> >> That's odd, because my boss was just on a jury trial last month.. I > > > >> >> guess that makes you a liar again, doesn't it?- Hide quoted text - > > > > >> >No, it does not. ?The right to trial by jury no longer exists. ? > > > > >> <snip> > > > > >> The rest of your psychobabble wasn't even worth reading, particularly > > > >> when you start with such an idiotic comment. > > > > >> I guess that old saying is right - A person who acts as their own > > > >> lawyer has an idiot for a client.. > > > > >Well, you Europeans love lawyers. �I would never hire one under any > > > >circumstances. > > > > What in tarnation ever gave you the idea that I am from Europe!?!?- Hide quoted text - > > > All atheists have European values.  The difference between European > > values and American values is that Europeans believe that people exist > > to serve governments.  Americans believe that governments exist to > > serve people. > > Robert B. Winn > > What an enormous load of bollocks.  The idea of the rights of the > individual (in western society) came from centuries of slow painful > progress by Europeans. > > Al- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - So why were the greatest atrocities in Europe in the last century? Robert B. Winn |