Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 21 Jul 2008 14:17 On Jul 21, 7:34�am, ben_dolan_...(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > All atheists have European values. �The difference between European > > values and American values is that Europeans believe that people exist > > to serve governments. �Americans believe that governments exist to > > serve people. > > So, in addition to being a religious crackpot and a physics crackpot, > you now fancy yourself to be a political crackpot. Guess that makes a > trifecta...
From: rbwinn on 21 Jul 2008 14:18 On Jul 21, 7:34�am, ben_dolan_...(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > All atheists have European values. �The difference between European > > values and American values is that Europeans believe that people exist > > to serve governments. �Americans believe that governments exist to > > serve people. > > So, in addition to being a religious crackpot and a physics crackpot, > you now fancy yourself to be a political crackpot. Guess that makes a > trifecta... Ben, Good to see you posting something for yourself. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 21 Jul 2008 14:26 On Jul 21, 8:59�am, Jon Green <jo...(a)deadspam.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > All atheists have European values. �The difference between European > > values and American values is that Europeans believe that people exist > > to serve governments. �Americans believe that governments exist to > > serve people. > > Might I suggest that you actually visit Europe and learn something about > its nations and their peoples, rather than spouting a load of prejudiced > and ignorant tripe you read on some far-right religious webshite? > > By the way, most Ay-rabs aren't terrorists, most Indians don't wear > turbans, and none of the very many Chinese I've met has had either > yellow skin or a coolie hat. �I hope that helps to clear up some other > possible misconceptions you might hold. > > Ben Dolan summed it up nicely in his follow-up, but let me add one or > two more observations: you are ignorant of your Bible, of the Christian > Church and its history, and of the world and its peoples, but you don't > let these things get in the way of expressing your opinions of them; you > have the insight of a house brick, but are nowhere as constructive; you > hold arguments like a colander holds water; and if we had a whip-round, > and every other contributor to this thread offered you a clue, you'd > need to check with your Bishop what to do with them. �You are the > deranged twin in Ned Flanders' attic, and a good reason why people > shouldn't store old laptops in the loft. > > I'd just like to add that I don't consider you typical of LDS members. > The ones I've met in person have been polite, intelligent, likeable and > showed few signs of daft prejudice. �Mormons have been most helpful in > my friends' researches, too: more power to their (collective) elbow. > What you are doing is damaging the good work that LDS folk have done, > and the good reputation that they have created. > > The reason (I surmise) why people in this thread have been challenging > and trolling you is because you have done the equivalent of walking onto > a live firing range with a roundel on your chest, shouting insults about > the shooters and their immediate families. �Talk about the holy fool... > > Now, how about letting it drop, for pity's sake? > > Jon > -- > SPAM BLOCK IN USE! To reply in email, replace 'deadspam' > � �with 'green-lines'. Jon, Let what drop? No one has even said anything. Not even one death threat, profanity kept to a minimum, only a few minor insults. What is supposed to be so traumatic about this conversation? When I used to talk to drug dealers, they would threaten to kill me about every other day. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 21 Jul 2008 14:27 On Jul 21, 9:39�am, Jon Green <jo...(a)deadspam.com> wrote: > Tim Ward wrote: > > "Jon Green" <jo...(a)deadspam.com> wrote in message > >news:Y5-dneHDC7rxLxnVnZ2dnUVZ8s_inZ2d(a)bt.com... > >> Now, how about letting it drop, for pity's sake? > > > Jon, the rest of us killfiled him long ago ... why don't you try it? > > It was silly fun to read the banter, until he turned into a race troll. > > Jon Race troll? Are you upset because I come from a race of people? Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 21 Jul 2008 14:31
On Jul 21, 10:30�am, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:d83608c5-8f45-4abe-a1f5-6801894dccc6(a)e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 20, 6:40?pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:10:15 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> Why would an "atheistic court system" reward someone who > > >> >> >> >> claimed to believe > > >> >> >> >> in gods, skippy? > > > >> >> >> > Lawyers reward anyone who adds to their power and financial > > >> >> >> > security. > > > >> >> >> You've got a whole "reward" thing going on at the moment, why is > > >> >> >> that?- Hide quoted text - > > > >> >> >I do not have anything going at the present time. ?Lawyers were the > > >> >> >people who started "plea bargaining" and did away with the right to > > >> >> >trial by jury. > > > >> >> That's odd, because my boss was just on a jury trial last month. I > > >> >> guess that makes you a liar again, doesn't it?- Hide quoted text - > > > >> >No, it does not. ?The right to trial by jury no longer exists. ? > > > >> <snip> > > > >> The rest of your psychobabble wasn't even worth reading, particularly > > >> when you start with such an idiotic comment. > > > >> I guess that old saying is right - A person who acts as their own > > >> lawyer has an idiot for a client.. > > > >Well, you Europeans love lawyers. ?I would never hire one under any > > >circumstances. > > > What in tarnation ever gave you the idea that I am from Europe!?!?- Hide > > quoted text - > > All atheists have European values. �The difference between European > values and American values is that Europeans believe that people exist > to serve governments. �Americans believe that governments exist to > serve people. > > ========== > > Let me guess -- you've never been out of the States, have you? > > Your picture of Europe comes straight out of "Hollywood Movie Clich� 101". > You probably believe that all Frenchmen wear berets and eat garlic and > cheese non-stop, that all Germans wear lederhosen, and all Brits have > crooked teeth. > And your information on Europe and Europeans comes straight from Hollywood, > right?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I never have been to Europe. I don't need to go there. I did go to Japan, the Philippines, Hong Kong, and Singapore when I was in the military. Oh, and Da Nang, Vietnam, one time. Then I went to Tiajuana, Mexico. I watch what happens in European governments. It is an accurate way to predict what is going to go wrong here. Robert B. Winn Robert B. Winn |