Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 21 Jul 2008 22:11 On Jul 21, 7:03�pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:05:18 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > >> >You need to be careful, Stan-O. ?Impersonating a doctor of psychiatry > >> >is a crime. > > >> I never claimed to be one, but usenet is hardly the place where > >> someone needs to have a slew of letters after their name in order to > >> have an opinion. You of all people should know that...- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Well, show some sincerety in your opinions. �Any person is free in the > >United States to go to a judge and file a petition for the > >institutionalization of a person believed to be insane. > > Be careful what you wish for, Robert. Be careful. I am not wishing for anything, Stan-O, just explaining options to atheists who say they want to do something. Robert B. Winn
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) on 21 Jul 2008 22:15 On Jul 21, 5:48 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Jul 20, 7:28 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > > <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > On Jul 21, 12:22 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > On Jul 20, 2:16�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > > > > <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > On Jul 19, 3:21 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 18, 5:32 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > > >>> George W. Bush is completely irrelevant, as the next President of the > > > > > > >>> United States will be. �All major decisions are made by the atheistic > > > > > > >>> Supreme Court, which at the present time holds the position of > > > > > > >>> Judicial dictatorship in the United States. > > > > > > >> Religious affiliations of Supreme Court Justices: > > > > > > >> Roberts: Roman Catholic > > > > > > >> Stevens: Protestant > > > > > > >> Scalia: Roman Catholic > > > > > > >> Kennedy: Roman Catholic > > > > > > >> Souter: Episcopalian > > > > > > >> Thomas: Roman Catholic > > > > > > >> Breyer: Jewish > > > > > > >> Alito: Roman Catholic > > > > > > >> Ginsburg: Jewish > > > > > > > >> The Supreme Court follows the Constitution of the United States of > > > > > > >> America, the federal law of the land. > > > > > > > >> What were you saying again? > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > > During my lifetime the Supreme Court has not made even one decision > > > > > > > that did not promote atheism. �It does not matter if they all claim to > > > > > > > be religious. �Actions speak louder than words. > > > > > > > Perhaps you can name me one decision that "promoted atheism". > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > Roe v. Wade > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > Roe v Wade was a decision made on the grounds of violation of > > > > privacy. �Not a theological argument anywhere. > > > > Any more? > > > > > Al- Hide quoted text - > > > > Roe v. Wade was made on the grounds of atheism. > > > Robert B. Winn > > > You might want to review some court transcripts of the case. It was > > based on a privacy issue. Saying otherwise doesn't make it any less > > true. > > > Al- Hide quoted text - > > It had nothing to do with privacy. The purpose was to impose European > legal interpretation on the United States. > Robert B. Winn Go read something not written by your church will you? And your legal system is based on the English system, which borrows heavily from other systems. Get over it. Al
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) on 21 Jul 2008 22:16 On Jul 21, 5:51 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > >> rbwinn wrote: > > >>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > > >>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > >>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was... > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888? > > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was > > >>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer. > > >>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in > > >>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power. > > >>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that. > > >>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were > > >>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the > > >>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it > > >>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text - > > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > >>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not > > >>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto? > > >>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He > > >>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that > > >>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you > > >>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text - > > >>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well > > >>>>> documented. > > >>>> And what's that got to do with atheism? > > >>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been > > >>> a Christian by atheists of today. > > >> Don't change the subject. What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to > > >> atheism? > > > >> -- > > > So what is the matter? Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. They will > > > never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim > > > they were. > > > Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything? > > > Because what they did is irrelevant to me? Now, back onto the question > > you are REFUSING to answer: > > > What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the > > Soviet Union") relevant to atheism? > > Stalin was an atheist. His values and beliefs were much like yours > are today. > Robert B. Winn Torquemada was a christian. His values and beliefs were much like yours are today. And you're doing your best to make us all see the point of shooting christians. You really are. Al
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) on 21 Jul 2008 22:24 On Jul 21, 9:11 pm, "Alex W." <ing...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote in messagenews:9f95b46d-6d36-4ae0-a91e-248c0aae1986(a)i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > Robby's brain always seem to use that as an error message. "Well, > explain your idea to Jesus when he comes again". > > ========== > > Sidebar: that's actually the only error message that I've never seen on a > Windows box ... and the only one that would make some sort of horrible > sense. > ;-) Arg! The BSOD from hell! Al
From: DanielSan on 21 Jul 2008 22:33
rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 21, 6:38 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 20, 7:54 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Jul 20, 2:53 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:00 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:34�am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:27:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, a couple of atheists have told me that. ?They said he was a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian Orthodox and an alcoholic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He was an alcoholic. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you're making things up again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint: He was not a Christian merely because an atheist claimed he was... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint #2: ?What school did Stalin go to in 1888? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalin went to a Russian Orthodox seminary. ?He rejected what he was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taught there and became a mass murderer. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only partially true. Like I told you before, politicians, and in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular tyrants, will say anything to gain or remain in power. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Stalin did say he was an atheist. ?He told the truth about that. >>>>>>>>>>>> He never openly admitted this. In fact, his religious beliefs were >>>>>>>>>>>> pretty vague. What he hated was the concept of god as presented by the >>>>>>>>>>>> ROC. He did, however, find a political use for the church when it >>>>>>>>>>>> suited his purpose.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> That is quite a statement. �So you are saying that Stalin did not >>>>>>>>>>> believe in the Communist Manifesto? >>>>>>>>>> Tyrants will use or believe anything to maintain their control. He >>>>>>>>>> probably found some parts useful, and ignored anything that >>>>>>>>>> contradicted his personally ideologies...pretty much the same with you >>>>>>>>>> and your bible...- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>> Stalin tried to stamp out religion in the Soviet Union. It is well >>>>>>>>> documented. >>>>>>>> And what's that got to do with atheism? >>>>>>> Stalin was a prominent atheist of his time who is claimed to have been >>>>>>> a Christian by atheists of today. >>>>>> Don't change the subject. What has what Stalin tried to do relevant to >>>>>> atheism? >>>>>> -- >>>>> So what is the matter? Stalin and Pol Pot were atheists. They will >>>>> never turn into Christians no matter how many times you try to claim >>>>> they were. >>>>> Don't you atheists ever take responsibility for anything? >>>> Because what they did is irrelevant to me? Now, back onto the question >>>> you are REFUSING to answer: >>>> What has what Stalin tried to do ("tried to stamp out religion in the >>>> Soviet Union") relevant to atheism? >>>> -- >>> It is relevant to atheism because Stalin was an atheist. >> So, is it also relevant to masculinity? Stalin was a man, after all... >> Stalin also had a mustache. Is that relevant, too? >> >> Oh, Stalin was also born in December. Is that relevant? >> Stalin married a wife. Is that relevant? >> > Why don't you just decide for yourself what you think is relevant, > Daniel? How about none of it being relevant? -- ****************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *----------------------------------------------------* * "I distrust those people who know so well what God * * wants them to do because I notice it always * * coincides with their own desires." * * --Susan B. Anthony * ****************************************************** |