Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 30 Jul 2008 20:55 On Jul 30, 3:41�pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:32:28 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > >> >> -- > >> > As far as I am concerned, you can do whatever you decide to do. ?I do > >> > not pay any attention to what you do. > > >> This is obviously wrong since you're paying attention to what I post. ?:-) > > >> -- > >Well, no, I just try to answer your questions. �You just asked if you > >could call me Stalin. > > That wasn't me... Well, that was what I thought at the time. I said, That just doesn't sound like Stan-O. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 30 Jul 2008 20:57 On Jul 30, 3:43�pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e14...(a)m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > >On Jul 22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >On Jul 21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> >On Jul 21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> >> >On Jul 20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> > >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> >> >> >rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 20, 10:18 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> ... > > >> >> >> >> >>> So, Jesus didn't say it. > > >> >> >> >> >> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles. > > >> >> >> >> >So, Jesus didn't say it. > > >> >> >> >> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve. > > >> >> >> >Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why don't you wait > >> >> >> >until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was one of the > >> >> >> >twelve? > > >> >> >> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you insist on making > >> >> >> a fool of yourself. > > >> >> >> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve. > > >> >> >> If there were a God, He would strike you down for being such a bad > >> >> >> example.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >> >The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul says he is an > >> >> >apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many atheists of > >> >> >today say he was not. > > >> >> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error. Nowhere in > >> >> the entire Bible does it say that Paul was one of the Twelve. That was a > >> >> claim you made up that was not true. > > >> >> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they > >> >rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out. > > >> So, as you can see, apostle does not mean 'one of the Twelve'. > > >> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Your god would be > >> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >Well, yes it does mean �one of the Twelve. > > Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste some > time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no one_ > thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.- Hide quoted text - > Well, Paul thought he was. I don't think he would have gone around lying about it. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 30 Jul 2008 20:58 On Jul 30, 3:44�pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:40:51 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in > <cb9ee3fe-fdd0-40d8-83e5-146ccf9b7...(a)b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>: > > > > > > >On Jul 22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >On Jul 21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> >On Jul 21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> >> >On Jul 20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> > >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >> >> >> >> >rbwinn wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 20, 10:18 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> ... > > >> >> >> >> >>> So, Jesus didn't say it. > > >> >> >> >> >> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles. > > >> >> >> >> >So, Jesus didn't say it. > > >> >> >> >> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve. > > >> >> >> >Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why don't you wait > >> >> >> >until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was one of the > >> >> >> >twelve? > > >> >> >> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you insist on making > >> >> >> a fool of yourself. > > >> >> >> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve. > > >> >> >> If there were a God, He would strike you down for being such a bad > >> >> >> example.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >> >The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul says he is an > >> >> >apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many atheists of > >> >> >today say he was not. > > >> >> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error. Nowhere in > >> >> the entire Bible does it say that Paul was one of the Twelve. That was a > >> >> claim you made up that was not true. > > >> >> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they > >> >rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out. > > >> So, as you can see, apostle does not mean 'one of the Twelve'. > > >> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Your god would be > >> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted text - > > >Paul was one of the twelve. �He was ordained when James the son of > >Zebedee was killed by Herod. �The apostles kept the quorum at twelve > >until Peter was crucified in Rome, then one by one all of the apostles > >were killed. �You are claiming that because some translators misused > >the term apostle that the apostles would have been controlled by that > >future mis-translation. �It does not work that way, just as the > >disbelief of atheists today did not control the existence of Jesus > >Christ. > >Robert B. Winn > > Feel free to back up your ahistorical claim with real evidence or even > the story line from the New Testament.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, I think we should wait until the resurrection and ask Paul about it. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 30 Jul 2008 20:59 On Jul 30, 3:49�pm, Matthew Johnson <matthew_mem...(a)newsguy.org> wrote: > In article <dlr194hqoinhvvnmcin90apgdeqbjgh...(a)4ax.com>, Free Lunch says.... > > [snip] > > >Feel free to back up your ahistorical claim with real evidence or even > >the story line from the New Testament. > > But do it somewhere else: it is really off-topic in sci.physics. Stop > crossposting. Thank you Matthew. I have been telling these people that the topic was Einstein's theory of relativity for a long time. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 30 Jul 2008 21:01
On Jul 30, 3:59�pm, Matthew Johnson <matthew_mem...(a)newsguy.org> wrote: > In article <6fc8kdFarl1...(a)mid.individual.net>, Steve O says... > > [snip] > > >Of course, you knew that, but you were just being silly, weren't you? > > As long as you continue to post this in sci.physics, you are both being pretty > silly. They have told me that they will under no circumstances take sci.physics and sci.physics.relativity out of the header when they post topics about their opposition to religion. Robert B. Winn |