Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Free Lunch on 30 Jul 2008 18:43 On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:46:16 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in <5756c0f4-924c-42b6-b121-8d1294e145c1(a)m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>: >On Jul 22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Jul 21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >On Jul 21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >On Jul 20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >> >rbwinn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 20, 10:18 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> ... >> >> >> >> >> >>> So, Jesus didn't say it. >> >> >> >> >> >> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles. >> >> >> >> >> >So, Jesus didn't say it. >> >> >> >> >> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve. >> >> >> >> >Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why don't you wait >> >> >> >until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was one of the >> >> >> >twelve? >> >> >> >> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you insist on making >> >> >> a fool of yourself. >> >> >> >> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve. >> >> >> >> If there were a God, He would strike you down for being such a bad >> >> >> example.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> >The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul says he is an >> >> >apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many atheists of >> >> >today say he was not. >> >> >> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error. Nowhere in >> >> the entire Bible does it say that Paul was one of the Twelve. That was a >> >> claim you made up that was not true. >> >> >> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they >> >rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out. >> >> So, as you can see, apostle does not mean 'one of the Twelve'. >> >> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Your god would be >> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >Well, yes it does mean one of the Twelve. Then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Go waste some time reading the Gospels, Acts and letters to find out that _no one_ thought that Paul was one of the Twelve.
From: Free Lunch on 30 Jul 2008 18:44 On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:40:51 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in <cb9ee3fe-fdd0-40d8-83e5-146ccf9b7ba7(a)b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>: >On Jul 22, 4:36?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Jul 21, 6:51?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:58:47 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >On Jul 21, 5:15?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:27:20 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >On Jul 20, 4:53?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:57:06 -0700, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> >> >> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >> >rbwinn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 20, 10:18 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> ... >> >> >> >> >> >>> So, Jesus didn't say it. >> >> >> >> >> >> Paul said it. ?He was one of the twelve apostles. >> >> >> >> >> >So, Jesus didn't say it. >> >> >> >> >> And, as we all know, Paul was not one of the Twelve. >> >> >> >> >Well, if you doubt that Paul was one of the twelve, why don't you wait >> >> >> >until after you are resurrected and ask Paul if he was one of the >> >> >> >twelve? >> >> >> >> You are really ignorant about the Bible. No wonder you insist on making >> >> >> a fool of yourself. >> >> >> >> Clue. Even Paul tells us he wasn't one of the Twelve. >> >> >> >> If there were a God, He would strike you down for being such a bad >> >> >> example.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> >The book of Acts says Paul was ordained an apostle, Paul says he is an >> >> >apostle. ?Paul was an apostle, regardless of how many atheists of >> >> >today say he was not. >> >> >> Once again, you choose to lie rather than admit your error. Nowhere in >> >> the entire Bible does it say that Paul was one of the Twelve. That was a >> >> claim you made up that was not true. >> >> >> Keep lying. Prove to us how much of a fake you are.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >Acts 14:14 ?Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they >> >rent their clothes, and ran in among the people crying out. >> >> So, as you can see, apostle does not mean 'one of the Twelve'. >> >> Please, learn the myths you are trying to sell us. Your god would be >> embarrassed by your ignorance if he existed.- Hide quoted text - >> > >Paul was one of the twelve. He was ordained when James the son of >Zebedee was killed by Herod. The apostles kept the quorum at twelve >until Peter was crucified in Rome, then one by one all of the apostles >were killed. You are claiming that because some translators misused >the term apostle that the apostles would have been controlled by that >future mis-translation. It does not work that way, just as the >disbelief of atheists today did not control the existence of Jesus >Christ. >Robert B. Winn Feel free to back up your ahistorical claim with real evidence or even the story line from the New Testament.
From: Matthew Johnson on 30 Jul 2008 18:49 In article <dlr194hqoinhvvnmcin90apgdeqbjghqmb(a)4ax.com>, Free Lunch says... > [snip] >Feel free to back up your ahistorical claim with real evidence or even >the story line from the New Testament. But do it somewhere else: it is really off-topic in sci.physics. Stop crossposting.
From: Matthew Johnson on 30 Jul 2008 18:59 In article <6fc8kdFarl1dU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Steve O says... [snip] >Of course, you knew that, but you were just being silly, weren't you? As long as you continue to post this in sci.physics, you are both being pretty silly.
From: Smiler on 30 Jul 2008 20:25
"Stan-O" <bndsna807(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:1kq1949f2u711u1qt1tjv30s5snpkkeakq(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:57:16 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> > wrote: > >>> It's more than likely that Robbie exists on the fringes of the mental >>> health >>> service, not quite crazy enough to be sectioned and sane enough to live >>> ?in >>> society. >>> There are plenty of people like him. >>> I quite often have to deal with the mentally ill, and it constantly >>> surprises me how ill they have to be before the hospitals will take them >>> in. >>> >>> -- >>> Steve O >>> a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter) >>> B.A.A.W.A. >>> Convicted by Earthquack >>> Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >>Well, with regard to that, psychiatrists only treat patients who are >>financially profitable to them. That makes psychiatrists among the >>most useless people on earth, along with lawyers. > > Slyly, Robert tries to change the subject... A common ploy by the mentally ill. What Skippy doesn't know is that "Sectioned" refers to Section 2 of the UK Mental Health Act and that, in the UK, psychiatrists get paid the same amount for each and every patient they see under the NHS. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279 |