Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Yap on 22 Aug 2008 05:30 On Aug 21, 9:15 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Aug 20, 11:39 pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > You have no basic understanding of subjects like history, psychology, > > philosophy and science. > > Your high school standard does not give you enough knowledge to talk > > about relativity of time, with respect to the happening in this world. > > You are also trying to equate events in the past to present in order > > to defend your Jesus/god thing. > > There is no correlation here. > > Events happened in the past, unless real and true, had no influence on > > things in present day. > > Jesus and the invented term "god" have no meaning in our world now. > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > On Aug 20, 7:16 pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Steve, > > > > Your message make a lot of sense. > > > > We tend to be clear in our mind whether or not a particular situation > > > > is correct or reasonable. > > > > But, all the loons in the world behave the same way, they take bible > > > > for granted and even if they are suspicious of a particular event, > > > > they will not raise any question. > > > > Those events described in the bible were not the same as scientific > > > > theories or mathematical equations which were based on values and > > > > facts. > > > > They were presented in the supernatural sense but lackedthe ability to > > > > withstand simple scrutiny or reasoning. > > > > For all the power attributed to god, he was not projected to exercise > > > > his capability to benefit human. What good would the god be? > > > > Sad, sad..... > > > > Well, here in sci.physics.relativity we talk about relativity of > > > time. You atheists and other absolute time disciples look at the time > > > of today, compare it to what happened yesterday and from that conclude > > > that nothing different could have ever happened in the history of the > > > earth. > > > People who consider the subject more deeply are aware that time is > > > relative, and is not only affected by velocity, as the equations of > > > modern scientists show. So using your ideas based on absolute time, > > > you followers of European philosophy conclude that what occured today > > > must have occurred in every day of the earth's history, and no other > > > explanation is possible. > > > Time measures the number of events that take place in an > > > interval. If the interval is one rotation of the earth, who is to say > > > that eleven billion years of dinosaurs counted by transitions of a > > > cesium isotope molecule under present conditions could not have > > > occurred in one rotation of the earth? > > > You absolute time atheists are all thrilled about relativity of > > > time except when it does not suit your purposes. > > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Well, let's just wait a few years and see how you atheists do since > you control everything now. The prophecy is that you will not be able > to hold it together and that wars will spread over the entire earth. > So let's see what happens. > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - There is no need to wait for a few years. We know all the prophecies had not been working in the past, neither is this "war" you are looking forward to. You will be one to worry about.
From: Yap on 22 Aug 2008 05:49 On Aug 22, 10:09 am, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > Yap wrote: > > Yes, quite possibly right. > > I think his reasoning brain cells may have been fried. > > Only his reasoning ones? > > Smiler, > The godless one > a.a.# 2279 May be, and rbwinn is not even disputing my assertion. Must be correct.
From: rbwinn on 22 Aug 2008 09:09 On Aug 21, 10:51�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > On Aug 22, 2:28 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > Well, I know you do not discuss the theory of relativity. �I have seen > > you discuss religion. > > Robert B. Winn > > I've discussed your attempts to call algebra physics, but no-one has > discussed relativity except to use the term. > > Have you seen me discuss religion? �What did I say about it. > > Al Well, basically, you say that you think you have something better, but when asked about what you have, you say that you have the ability to oppose religion. So without religion, what do you have? Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 22 Aug 2008 09:11 On Aug 21, 10:56�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > On Aug 22, 2:25 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 21, 8:51 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > > > <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > On Aug 21, 3:08 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 20, 9:58 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > > > > > <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 21, 1:23 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 7:30 pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote:> Well, I studied post graduate in British university at Manchester city > > > > > > > previously. > > > > > > > There were no European propaganda but most people did not bother to > > > > > > > talk in Christianity, due to the fact that the tales were so obviously > > > > > > > invented. > > > > > > > British loons in most cases got cornered when being questioned about > > > > > > > the inability of their god to do reasonable things. > > > > > > > They evaded and switched subjects, like you did. > > > > > > > I don't evade and switch subjects. The subject is relativity of > > > > > > time. That is what we discuss here in sci.physics.relativity. > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > No. The discussion was started by a Mitch who began discussing the > > > > > subject line in typical retarded fashion. And your first comment was > > > > > not in any way connected to relativity. > > > > > How many times do you need to be corrected on this lie? > > > > > > Al > > > > > So, Al, are you saying that we are not allowed to discuss relativity > > > > of time here in sci.physics.relativity? > > > > No, I did not say that. In no way should that be infered from my > > > comments. Your attempt to say that that is what I've said is a > > > typical representation of your lying and attempts to sway > > > conversations to suggest you are being repressed in some way, which > > > again is typical of both christians and paranoid schitzos. > > > > > How are you going to enforce > > > > your edict? > > > > I'm not, as it's not an edict. I am going to correct you everytime I > > > spot you lying outright about what others or yourself have said. > > > Well, your claim is that we do not discuss relativity of time in > > sci.physics.relativity. > > No, that is NOT my claim. > Well, what is your claim, Al? I said that we discuss relativity of time in sci.physics.relativity, and you immediately objected to that statement and said that you were not going to allow it. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 22 Aug 2008 09:16
On Aug 22, 2:30�am, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 21, 9:15�pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 11:39 pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > You have no basic understanding of subjects like history, psychology, > > > philosophy and science. > > > Your high school standard does not give you enough knowledge to talk > > > about relativity of time, with respect to the happening in this world.. > > > You are also trying to equate events in the past to present in order > > > to defend your Jesus/god thing. > > > There is no correlation here. > > > Events happened in the past, unless real and true, had no influence on > > > things in present day. > > > Jesus and the invented term "god" have no meaning in our world now. > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Aug 20, 7:16 pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Steve, > > > > > Your message make a lot of sense. > > > > > We tend to be clear in our mind whether or not a particular situation > > > > > is correct or reasonable. > > > > > But, all the loons in the world behave the same way, they take bible > > > > > for granted and even if they are suspicious of a particular event, > > > > > they will not raise any question. > > > > > Those events described in the bible were not the same as scientific > > > > > theories or mathematical equations which were based on values and > > > > > facts. > > > > > They were presented in the supernatural sense but lackedthe ability to > > > > > withstand simple scrutiny or reasoning. > > > > > For all the power attributed to god, he was not projected to exercise > > > > > his capability to benefit human. What good would the god be? > > > > > Sad, sad..... > > > > > Well, here in sci.physics.relativity we talk about relativity of > > > > time. You atheists and other absolute time disciples look at the time > > > > of today, compare it to what happened yesterday and from that conclude > > > > that nothing different could have ever happened in the history of the > > > > earth. > > > > People who consider the subject more deeply are aware that time is > > > > relative, and is not only affected by velocity, as the equations of > > > > modern scientists show. So using your ideas based on absolute time, > > > > you followers of European philosophy conclude that what occured today > > > > must have occurred in every day of the earth's history, and no other > > > > explanation is possible. > > > > Time measures the number of events that take place in an > > > > interval. If the interval is one rotation of the earth, who is to say > > > > that eleven billion years of dinosaurs counted by transitions of a > > > > cesium isotope molecule under present conditions could not have > > > > occurred in one rotation of the earth? > > > > You absolute time atheists are all thrilled about relativity of > > > > time except when it does not suit your purposes. > > > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Well, let's just wait a few years and see how you atheists do since > > you control everything now. �The prophecy is that you will not be able > > to hold it together and that wars will spread over the entire earth. > > So let's see what happens. > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > There is no need to wait for a few years. > We know all the prophecies had not been working in the past, neither > is this "war" you are looking forward to. > You will be one to worry about.- Hide quoted text - > I guess you must have missed noticing that there were two World Wars in the last century, plus a bunch of undeclared wars that the United States was involved in. But you atheists think you have achieved world peace. So let's just wait a little while and see if you have achieved world peace. Robert B. Winn |