Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 22 Aug 2008 22:48 On Aug 22, 6:38�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Aug 21, 6:57?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Aug 20, 7:41?pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Some important points: > >>>> 1). You know revelations are nonsense and had never been correct. > >>>> 2). Why would a temple be so difficult to build? > > >>> There is a Muslim mosque called the Dome of the Rock located on the > >>> temple site. > > >> Are there any other sorts of Mosque? > > > Why do you ask? > > Because I've never heard of a mosque that wasn't Muslim. > Well, this one is Muslim, so it seems to be in agreement with your concept. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 22 Aug 2008 22:49 On Aug 22, 6:49�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Aug 21, 7:16?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Aug 20, 9:11?pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Wrong. > >>>> The Nazi party was a past organization trying to elevate the > >>>> financial status of German people. The Jews were trying to dominate > >>>> then, like the current Jews in the US. > >>>> There is no more influence of Roman culture in this world now, let > >>>> alone Jewish. > > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Aug 20, 7:34 pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> You are wrong here. > >>>>>> I know Roman history were taught in school and not Jewish > >>>>>> history. > > >>>>> That is correct. ?So who do you think had the greatest influence > >>>>> on Europe, the Jews or the Nazi Party? ? The Nazi and Fascist > >>>>> Parties were patterned after Roman government. > >>>>> Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > >>>> - Show quoted text - > > >>> For crying out loud, Yap. ?Haven't you ever heard of the Holy Roman > >>> empire? ?Where do you think it was? > >>> With regard to the Fascist Party, it was advertised as being Roman > >>> government. > > >> Mussolini's fascist party certainly was a 'Roman' government, as it > >> governed from Rome and was led by a Roman Catholic. > > > Well, it was patterned after ancient Roman government, which was a > > pagan government. > > I suggest that you take that up with Julius Caesar. > Why would you suggest that? Robert B. Winn
From: Yap on 23 Aug 2008 01:41 On Aug 22, 9:16 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Aug 22, 2:30 am, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 21, 9:15 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 20, 11:39 pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > You have no basic understanding of subjects like history, psychology, > > > > philosophy and science. > > > > Your high school standard does not give you enough knowledge to talk > > > > about relativity of time, with respect to the happening in this world. > > > > You are also trying to equate events in the past to present in order > > > > to defend your Jesus/god thing. > > > > There is no correlation here. > > > > Events happened in the past, unless real and true, had no influence on > > > > things in present day. > > > > Jesus and the invented term "god" have no meaning in our world now. > > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > > On Aug 20, 7:16 pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Steve, > > > > > > Your message make a lot of sense. > > > > > > We tend to be clear in our mind whether or not a particular situation > > > > > > is correct or reasonable. > > > > > > But, all the loons in the world behave the same way, they take bible > > > > > > for granted and even if they are suspicious of a particular event, > > > > > > they will not raise any question. > > > > > > Those events described in the bible were not the same as scientific > > > > > > theories or mathematical equations which were based on values and > > > > > > facts. > > > > > > They were presented in the supernatural sense but lackedthe ability to > > > > > > withstand simple scrutiny or reasoning. > > > > > > For all the power attributed to god, he was not projected to exercise > > > > > > his capability to benefit human. What good would the god be? > > > > > > Sad, sad..... > > > > > > Well, here in sci.physics.relativity we talk about relativity of > > > > > time. You atheists and other absolute time disciples look at the time > > > > > of today, compare it to what happened yesterday and from that conclude > > > > > that nothing different could have ever happened in the history of the > > > > > earth. > > > > > People who consider the subject more deeply are aware that time is > > > > > relative, and is not only affected by velocity, as the equations of > > > > > modern scientists show. So using your ideas based on absolute time, > > > > > you followers of European philosophy conclude that what occured today > > > > > must have occurred in every day of the earth's history, and no other > > > > > explanation is possible. > > > > > Time measures the number of events that take place in an > > > > > interval. If the interval is one rotation of the earth, who is to say > > > > > that eleven billion years of dinosaurs counted by transitions of a > > > > > cesium isotope molecule under present conditions could not have > > > > > occurred in one rotation of the earth? > > > > > You absolute time atheists are all thrilled about relativity of > > > > > time except when it does not suit your purposes. > > > > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Well, let's just wait a few years and see how you atheists do since > > > you control everything now. The prophecy is that you will not be able > > > to hold it together and that wars will spread over the entire earth. > > > So let's see what happens. > > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > There is no need to wait for a few years. > > We know all the prophecies had not been working in the past, neither > > is this "war" you are looking forward to. > > You will be one to worry about.- Hide quoted text - > > I guess you must have missed noticing that there were two World Wars > in the last century, plus a bunch of undeclared wars that the United > States was involved in. But you atheists think you have achieved > world peace. So let's just wait a little while and see if you have > achieved world peace. > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - You will be surprised. This world is full of sensible people, unlike the bigotry US and British imperialist. You are always thinking of bad events to fulfill your buybull prophecies....but with each passing centuries, where do you get to?
From: Yap on 23 Aug 2008 01:54 On Aug 22, 9:22 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Aug 22, 2:49 am, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Aug 22, 10:09 am, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > > > > Yap wrote: > > > > Yes, quite possibly right. > > > > I think his reasoning brain cells may have been fried. > > > > Only his reasoning ones? > > > > Smiler, > > > The godless one > > > a.a.# 2279 > > > May be, and rbwinn is not even disputing my assertion. Must be correct. > > I never dispute. > You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. > Robert B. Winn You have a condition for people to analyze your behavor. The people in this world else where never try to curse ourselves into disaster like the prophecies in the buybull. Your religion is either providing a very evil teaching or is a way for those un-educated to milk money. Look at some of the African countries whose stupid people bought the conversion from the missionaries but yet the whole country is either mismanaged or very corrupted to the core; and the people embracing your religion without being taught to how to survive. So, you believe they can live with religion without food? Sometimes I refuse to watch those TV programs like Discovery which showed the Africans in dire state of poverty, yet Christians. How naive and pathetic these people are!
From: Yap on 23 Aug 2008 01:59
On Aug 23, 8:00 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Aug 22, 11:03 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >news:a7f915bf-c5d9-4a09-b2f6-e875a7c5fac0(a)a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com.... > > > > On Aug 21, 10:51 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > > > <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > >> On Aug 22, 2:28 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > >> > Well, I know you do not discuss the theory of relativity. I have seen > > >> > you discuss religion. > > >> > Robert B. Winn > > > >> I've discussed your attempts to call algebra physics, but no-one has > > >> discussed relativity except to use the term. > > > >> Have you seen me discuss religion? What did I say about it. > > > >> Al > > > Well, basically, you say that you think you have something better, but > > > when asked about what you have, you say that you have the ability to > > > oppose religion. So without religion, what do you have? > > > Robert B. Winn > > > No religion? > > Right. You do not seem to have anything of your own. > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - No. All people can live without religion. But religious people, like you, may not be able (or unwilling) to live like ordinary resourceful human. In other words, we don't need god, but certainly god need people, right? |