Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Yap on 23 Aug 2008 20:01 On Aug 24, 1:47 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Aug 23, 6:52 am, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 23, 9:03 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 22, 10:54 pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 22, 9:22 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 22, 2:49 am, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 22, 10:09 am, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yap wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, quite possibly right. > > > > > > > > I think his reasoning brain cells may have been fried. > > > > > > > > Only his reasoning ones? > > > > > > > > Smiler, > > > > > > > The godless one > > > > > > > a.a.# 2279 > > > > > > > May be, and rbwinn is not even disputing my assertion. Must be correct. > > > > > > I never dispute. > > > > > You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > You have a condition for people to analyze your behavor. > > > > The people in this world else where never try to curse ourselves into > > > > disaster like the prophecies in the buybull. > > > > Your religion is either providing a very evil teaching or is a way for > > > > those un-educated to milk money. > > > > Look at some of the African countries whose stupid people bought the > > > > conversion from the missionaries but yet the whole country is either > > > > mismanaged or very corrupted to the core; and the people embracing > > > > your religion without being taught to how to survive. > > > > So, you believe they can live with religion without food? Sometimes I > > > > refuse to watch those TV programs like Discovery which showed the > > > > Africans in dire state of poverty, yet Christians. > > > > How naive and pathetic these people are!- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > So you think they would be better off if they were atheists in a dire > > > state of poverty. > > > Robert b. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > What is the difference if they are bigots or atheists in poverty? > > You did not catch my meaning ..... what I mean is for all the > > missionaries present which were used to convert the naives and were > > not being used to help in the eradication of poverty by provide > > training, or help in development...etc. > > The saying goes: " Give a man a fish and he is satisfied for a meal, > > but teach a man how to fish and he will survive for a life time." > > In your case, you don't even give a man a fish, you give a man a story > > book invented by the ancient Jewish con man. > > How pathetic.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Well, you do not know a whole lot. The church I belong to sends > people to Africa to help them drill wells, build buildings, etc. Not > everyone just sits around like atheists do. > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - No. The missionary need water and building, so they just build one well and a small buidling for themselves. I had been to Africa for quite a number of times and I know.....you don't, period. You are corrected before and again lied. We atheists save time from wasting in the church to care for our family, society, work and all other useful things.
From: Smiler on 23 Aug 2008 20:14 "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:6ha076Fk2k6hU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "Smiler" <Smiler(a)Joe.King.com> wrote in message > news:PSJrk.306871$7f3.48877(a)newsfe23.ams2... >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Aug 21, 6:57?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Aug 20, 7:41?pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Some important points: >>>>>> 1). You know revelations are nonsense and had never been correct. >>>>>> 2). Why would a temple be so difficult to build? >>>> >>>>> There is a Muslim mosque called the Dome of the Rock located on the >>>>> temple site. >>>> >>>> Are there any other sorts of Mosque? >>> >>> Why do you ask? >> >> Because I've never heard of a mosque that wasn't Muslim. > > Mosque-ow? > > Mosque-rat? > Mosque-eat-toes? Mosque-iller (for the lawn)? Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Smiler on 23 Aug 2008 20:34 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:3855f9f9-4381-46b0-91cd-be39f4c10dc5(a)m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... On Aug 22, 10:59?pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 23, 8:00?am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 22, 11:03 am, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > > >news:a7f915bf-c5d9-4a09-b2f6-e875a7c5fac0(a)a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Aug 21, 10:51 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > > > > <alwh...(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > >> On Aug 22, 2:28 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > >> > Well, I know you do not discuss the theory of relativity. I have > > > >> > seen > > > >> > you discuss religion. > > > >> > Robert B. Winn > > > > >> I've discussed your attempts to call algebra physics, but no-one > > > >> has > > > >> discussed relativity except to use the term. > > > > >> Have you seen me discuss religion? What did I say about it. > > > > >> Al > > > > Well, basically, you say that you think you have something better, > > > > but > > > > when asked about what you have, you say that you have the ability to > > > > oppose religion. So without religion, what do you have? > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > No religion? > > > Right. ?You do not seem to have anything of your own. > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > No. > All people can live without religion. > But religious people, like you, may not be able (or unwilling) to live > like ordinary resourceful human. > In other words, we don't need god, but certainly god need people, > right?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Wrong. Yes you are, as usual. When the last theist dies, all gods will be consigned to the dustbin of history. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: rbwinn on 23 Aug 2008 20:45 On Aug 23, 5:01�pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 24, 1:47�am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 23, 6:52 am, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 23, 9:03 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 22, 10:54 pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 22, 9:22 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 22, 2:49 am, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Aug 22, 10:09 am, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yap wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yes, quite possibly right. > > > > > > > > > I think his reasoning brain cells may have been fried. > > > > > > > > > Only his reasoning ones? > > > > > > > > > Smiler, > > > > > > > > The godless one > > > > > > > > a.a.# 2279 > > > > > > > > May be, and rbwinn is not even disputing my assertion. Must be correct. > > > > > > > I never dispute. > > > > > > You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. > > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > > You have a condition for people to analyze your behavor. > > > > > The people in this world else where never try to curse ourselves into > > > > > disaster like the prophecies in the buybull. > > > > > Your religion is either providing a very evil teaching or is a way for > > > > > those un-educated to milk money. > > > > > Look at some of the African countries whose stupid people bought the > > > > > conversion from the missionaries but yet the whole country is either > > > > > mismanaged or very corrupted to the core; and the people embracing > > > > > your religion without being taught to how to survive. > > > > > So, you believe they can live with religion without food? Sometimes I > > > > > refuse to watch those TV programs like Discovery which showed the > > > > > Africans in dire state of poverty, yet Christians. > > > > > How naive and pathetic these people are!- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > So you think they would be better off if they were atheists in a dire > > > > state of poverty. > > > > Robert b. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > What is the difference if they are bigots or atheists in poverty? > > > You did not catch my meaning ..... what I mean is for all the > > > missionaries present which were used to convert the naives and were > > > not being used to help in the eradication of poverty by provide > > > training, or help in development...etc. > > > The saying goes: " Give a man a fish and he is satisfied for a meal, > > > but teach a man how to fish and he will survive for a life time." > > > In your case, you don't even give a man a fish, you give a man a story > > > book invented by the ancient Jewish con man. > > > How pathetic.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Well, you do not know a whole lot. �The church I belong to sends > > people to Africa to help them drill wells, build buildings, etc. �Not > > everyone just sits around like atheists do. > > Robert B. Winn- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > No. > The missionary need water and building, so they just build one well > and a small buidling for themselves. I had been to Africa for quite a > number of times and I know.....you don't, period. > You are corrected before and again lied. We atheists save time from > wasting in the church to care for our family, society, work and all > other useful things.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I do know what my church does. They send people with experience in well drilling, make a well drilling rig, and start drilling wells. They send people with experience in construction, teach people how to make concrete blocks, and start building buildings. You atheists go look at a few buildings that were made by some other church, and you think you know everything. Robert B. Winn
From: Smiler on 23 Aug 2008 20:47
rbwinn wrote: > On Aug 23, 2:53?pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...(a)thanks.com> wrote: >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> >> news:d549f6e2-bc74-4613-954f-93b0481f40f5(a)z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Aug 23, 6:52 am, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Aug 23, 9:03 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >> >>>>> On Aug 22, 10:54 pm, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> On Aug 22, 9:22 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2:49 am, Yap <hhyaps...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 10:09 am, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> Yap wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Yes, quite possibly right. >>>>>>>>>> I think his reasoning brain cells may have been fried. >> >>>>>>>>> Only his reasoning ones? >> >>>>>>>>> Smiler, >>>>>>>>> The godless one >>>>>>>>> a.a.# 2279 >> >>>>>>>> May be, and rbwinn is not even disputing my assertion. Must be >>>>>>>> correct. >> >>>>>>> I never dispute. >>>>>>> You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >> >>>>>> You have a condition for people to analyze your behavor. >>>>>> The people in this world else where never try to curse ourselves >>>>>> into disaster like the prophecies in the buybull. >>>>>> Your religion is either providing a very evil teaching or is a >>>>>> way for >>>>>> those un-educated to milk money. >>>>>> Look at some of the African countries whose stupid people bought >>>>>> the conversion from the missionaries but yet the whole country >>>>>> is either mismanaged or very corrupted to the core; and the >>>>>> people embracing your religion without being taught to how to >>>>>> survive. >>>>>> So, you believe they can live with religion without food? >>>>>> Sometimes I refuse to watch those TV programs like Discovery >>>>>> which showed the Africans in dire state of poverty, yet >>>>>> Christians. >>>>>> How naive and pathetic these people are!- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>>> So you think they would be better off if they were atheists in a >>>>> dire state of poverty. >>>>> Robert b. Winn- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>> What is the difference if they are bigots or atheists in poverty? >>>> You did not catch my meaning ..... what I mean is for all the >>>> missionaries present which were used to convert the naives and were >>>> not being used to help in the eradication of poverty by provide >>>> training, or help in development...etc. >>>> The saying goes: " Give a man a fish and he is satisfied for a >>>> meal, but teach a man how to fish and he will survive for a life >>>> time." >>>> In your case, you don't even give a man a fish, you give a man a >>>> story book invented by the ancient Jewish con man. >>>> How pathetic.- Hide quoted text - >> >>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>> Well, you do not know a whole lot. ?The church I belong to sends >>> people to Africa to help them drill wells, build buildings, etc. >>> ?Not everyone just sits around like atheists do. >>> Robert B. Winn >> >> Really? >> And what charities are YOU personally involved in? >> I don't mean which ones do you give money to- anyone could do that, >> I mean what charities do YOU personally contribute your time to? >> >> -- >> Steve O > > I am assigned church members in my own area to visit. > House prices in your area have hit rock bottom? People moving away in droves and can't get purchasers or tenants? Mystery outbreak of suicides amongst Mormons in your area? Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279 |