Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 28 Jun 2008 20:37 On Jun 28, 2:09 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jun 28, 7:02�am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:56:16 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >>> On Jun 28, 12:11�am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Jun 27, 6:37?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jun 22, 12:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> ask other readers here to help me recompose them with a grammar and > >>>>>>>>>> vocabulary appropos for a first or second grade pupil so you can comprehend > >>>>>>>>>> and then answer them. > >>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>>> All public schools are required to teach atheism. > >>>>>>>> Please explain how, specifically, they are doing that. Sounding like > >>>>>>>> another sacred lie...- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>>>> Teachers hired to teach in public schools are trained in college to > >>>>>>> teach atheism. > >>>>>> Is it explicit in their contract? Can you justify that claim? <chirpiing > >>>>>> crickets>- Hide quoted text - > >>>>> Well, yes it is explicit in their contract. �If someone prayed in > >>>>> school the way my sixth grade teacher did, he would be fired. > >>>> I didn't know they had a prayer clause in there. You learn something new > >>>> every day. Don't you think religion belongs at home, not at school?- Hide quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >>> Well, the Bible says that true religion is to help the widow and the > >>> fatherless in their time of affliction. �Why shouldn't widows and > >>> fatherless people be helped at school? > >> They are helped by schooling. Prayer does nothing at all.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Well, I went all the way through high school.  They were not teaching > > anything that helped me much. > > I don't believe that your difficulties with functioning in the real > world is the fault of your educators.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, a while back you were saying that the teacher I had that used to pray in school was guilty of child abuse. What made you change your mind? Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 28 Jun 2008 20:38 On Jun 28, 2:15 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Jun 28, 7:04�am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:01:05 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> wrote in alt.atheism: > > >>> On Jun 28, 12:21�am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> ... > > >>>>> No, you were trying to hedge your bets. �You do not believe in faith, > >>>>> but you are "on the edge of faith", so that counts in case you need to > >>>>> have faith. �I know how atheists think. > >>>> Why would I need to hedge my bets? I believe in faith, I just don't > >>>> think it's rational. And believe me, you really *don't* know how > >>>> atheists think.- Hide quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >>> I know far better than atheists how they think. �They have made a > >>> wrong choice, so their options are limited. > >> Your lies are indefensible. You celebrate the evil that you have fallen > >> into. > > > I thought you atheists did not believe evil exists.  If there is no > > devil, everything is good, isn't it? > > Evil sounds like a religious concept to me, but why would you think that > we can't differentiate right from wrong. Another strawman? > > We seem to be able to discuss without lying, can you?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Sure. A while back you were saying that there was nothing wrong with killing children before they are born. So are you saying that killing children before they are born is a good thing? Robert B. Winn
From: Free Lunch on 28 Jun 2008 21:06 On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:26:59 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism: >On Jun 28, 12:50?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:11:54 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Jun 28, 7:17?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> >> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >On Jun 28, 12:26?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> >> > On Jun 27, 6:42?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> >> >> Jack wrote: >> >> >> >>>> I am upset by *people* who >> >> >> >>>> believe that the Bible is anything more than mythology and try ?to impose >> >> >> >>>> their >> >> >> >>>> beliefs on me ?using the Bible as evidence. >> >> >> >>> How can someone impose a belief on you? ?Just believe whatever you want to >> >> >> >>> believe. >> >> >> >> The wrong part is when people attempt to use the myth to formulate >> >> >> >> public policy or indoctrinate children or inform foreign policy. >> >> >> >> > Well, actually they use fables. ?The apostles Paul said they would be >> >> >> > turned to fables in the last days. ?A fable is a story about animals >> >> >> > like the story about monkeys turning into humans. >> >> >> >> Wow, you're ignorant about evolution. Colour me surprised. >> >> >> >In what way am I ignorant about evolution? >> >> >> Monkeys and humans do share a common ancestor. Your denial of the fact >> >> does not change that fact.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >Charles Darwin was not my ancestor. >> >> So? >> >> Evolution happens. Learn to deal with reality.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >I never have believed in evolution. I think it is a fable, just as >Paul said it was. Paul knew nothing about it. You mock the Bible with such silly interpretations of it.
From: BuddyThunder on 29 Jun 2008 03:04 rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 28, 6:36 am, mizlee <miz...(a)aol.com> wrote: >> On Jun 27, 9:47 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jun 27, 9:04 am, mizlee <miz...(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>> On Jun 27, 8:37�am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: >>>>> Teachers hired to teach in public schools are trained in college to >>>>> teach atheism. >>>>> Robert B. Winn- >>>> As a former public school teacher, I am in a really, really good >>>> position to tell you that you are an absolute, bald-faced liar, in >>>> addition to being a barking mad looney. Seriously, dude, you need >>>> professional help. >>> So how did you get a teaching job if you did not go to college? >>> Robert B. Winn >> As a matter of fact, you lying whackjob, I have gone to three >> colleges, and have degrees from all of them. And you are still an >> absolute, bald-faced-liar, in addition to being a barking mad looney. >> But, by all means, keep posting. The more that rational people are >> exposed to those of your deluded ilk, the more they are turned off by >> religion. It really is no coincidence, you know, that young people in >> particular are rejecting religion in droves, especially christianity, >> and over all, people who self describe themselves as having no >> religion have doubled in the last ten years. The PEW Forum puts the >> unaffiliated at 16%, the largest since the American Revolution; they >> are increasingly disgusted with the baggage of religion - intolerance, >> bigotry, hatred, self-righteousness, anti-abortion, anti stem-cell >> research, anti-everything-progressive - and are now the second-largest >> "religious" group in the country. Keep it up, you are a perfect >> representative of everything that is evil in this country.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Well, but I do not deny the existence of Hezekiah's tunnel the way > atheists do. > Did you know that the Bible prophesies that in the last days men would > be lovers of themselves more than lovers of God? No, but you're happy to ignore London in the South of England. Weird, that! The Bible says lots of stuff. Like bats are birds.
From: BuddyThunder on 29 Jun 2008 03:07
rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 28, 2:09 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jun 28, 7:02�am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:56:16 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>> wrote in alt.atheism: >>>>> On Jun 28, 12:11�am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Jun 27, 6:37?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 12:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> ask other readers here to help me recompose them with a grammar and >>>>>>>>>>>> vocabulary appropos for a first or second grade pupil so you can comprehend >>>>>>>>>>>> and then answer them. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>>>>> All public schools are required to teach atheism. >>>>>>>>>> Please explain how, specifically, they are doing that. Sounding like >>>>>>>>>> another sacred lie...- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>>>> Teachers hired to teach in public schools are trained in college to >>>>>>>>> teach atheism. >>>>>>>> Is it explicit in their contract? Can you justify that claim? <chirpiing >>>>>>>> crickets>- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> Well, yes it is explicit in their contract. �If someone prayed in >>>>>>> school the way my sixth grade teacher did, he would be fired. >>>>>> I didn't know they had a prayer clause in there. You learn something new >>>>>> every day. Don't you think religion belongs at home, not at school?- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> Well, the Bible says that true religion is to help the widow and the >>>>> fatherless in their time of affliction. �Why shouldn't widows and >>>>> fatherless people be helped at school? >>>> They are helped by schooling. Prayer does nothing at all.- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> Well, I went all the way through high school. They were not teaching >>> anything that helped me much. >> I don't believe that your difficulties with functioning in the real >> world is the fault of your educators.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Well, a while back you were saying that the teacher I had that used to > pray in school was guilty of child abuse. What made you change your > mind? Where did I say that again? The teacher *was* certainly wrong to pray at children. Do you have difficulty following conversations? You reach... unusual conclusions. |