Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: rbwinn on 28 Jun 2008 15:07 On Jun 28, 7:04�am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:01:05 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote in alt.atheism: > > >On Jun 28, 12:21�am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > > ... > > >> > No, you were trying to hedge your bets. �You do not believe in faith, > >> > but you are "on the edge of faith", so that counts in case you need to > >> > have faith. �I know how atheists think. > > >> Why would I need to hedge my bets? I believe in faith, I just don't > >> think it's rational. And believe me, you really *don't* know how > >> atheists think.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >I know far better than atheists how they think. �They have made a > >wrong choice, so their options are limited. > > Your lies are indefensible. You celebrate the evil that you have fallen > into. I thought you atheists did not believe evil exists. If there is no devil, everything is good, isn't it? Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 28 Jun 2008 15:11 On Jun 28, 7:17�am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote in alt.atheism: > > > > > > >On Jun 28, 12:26�am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >> > On Jun 27, 6:42?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: > >> >> Jack wrote: > >> >>>> I am upset by *people* who > >> >>>> believe that the Bible is anything more than mythology and try ?to impose > >> >>>> their > >> >>>> beliefs on me ?using the Bible as evidence. > >> >>> How can someone impose a belief on you? ?Just believe whatever you want to > >> >>> believe. > >> >> The wrong part is when people attempt to use the myth to formulate > >> >> public policy or indoctrinate children or inform foreign policy. > > >> > Well, actually they use fables. �The apostles Paul said they would be > >> > turned to fables in the last days. �A fable is a story about animals > >> > like the story about monkeys turning into humans. > > >> Wow, you're ignorant about evolution. Colour me surprised. > > >In what way am I ignorant about evolution? > > Monkeys and humans do share a common ancestor. Your denial of the fact > does not change that fact.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Charles Darwin was not my ancestor. Robert B. Winn
From: William T. Goat on 28 Jun 2008 15:12 On May 28, 2:46 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...(a)gmail.com wrote: > On May 28, 9:08 am, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...(a)swbell.net> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 28 May 2008 11:46:36 -0400, "Geoff" <geb...(a)yahoo.nospam.com> > > wrote: > > > >mitch.nicolas.raem...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > >> Science thinks it knows alot? Ask it in a million years. > > > >Religion claims to know everything. It has been shown to be wrong > > >innumerable times. > > > Quite the contrary, religion acknowledges that there is an infinitude > > of information that we don't understand..."for now we see through a > > glass, darkly." But, in the next life we will see it all, very > > clearly. This is why our current acceptance is based upon faith, > > instead of knowledge. > > > Gordon > > God does not exist in the same way that physical objects exist. > > Mitch Raemsch Then perhaps "exist" is the wrong word to use. It's misleading. --Billy
From: Free Lunch on 28 Jun 2008 15:44 On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:04:59 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism: >On Jun 28, 7:02?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:56:16 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Jun 28, 12:11?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> > On Jun 27, 6:37?pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> >>> On Jun 22, 12:57 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> >>>> rbwinn wrote: >> >> >> >>>>>> ask other readers here to help me recompose them with a grammar and >> >> >>>>>> vocabulary appropos for a first or second grade pupil so you can comprehend >> >> >>>>>> and then answer them. >> >> >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >> >> >>>>> All public schools are required to teach atheism. >> >> >>>> Please explain how, specifically, they are doing that. Sounding like >> >> >>>> another sacred lie...- Hide quoted text - >> >> >>>> - Show quoted text - >> >> >>> Teachers hired to teach in public schools are trained in college to >> >> >>> teach atheism. >> >> >> Is it explicit in their contract? Can you justify that claim? <chirpiing >> >> >> crickets>- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> > Well, yes it is explicit in their contract. ?If someone prayed in >> >> > school the way my sixth grade teacher did, he would be fired. >> >> >> I didn't know they had a prayer clause in there. You learn something new >> >> every day. Don't you think religion belongs at home, not at school?- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >Well, the Bible says that true religion is to help the widow and the >> >fatherless in their time of affliction. ?Why shouldn't widows and >> >fatherless people be helped at school? >> >> They are helped by schooling. Prayer does nothing at all.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >Well, I went all the way through high school. They were not teaching >anything that helped me much. >Robert B. Winn I don't blame the school.
From: Free Lunch on 28 Jun 2008 15:45
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:06:23 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism: >On Jun 28, 7:04?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:59:13 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >> wrote in alt.atheism: >> >> >On Jun 28, 12:19?am, BuddyThunder <nos...(a)paradise.net.nz> wrote: >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> ... >> >> >> > It came from me. >> >> >> Maybe if you could show me where I did that? Why won't you back up >> >> anything you say?- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >Well, for instance, I said that Hezekiah's tunnel exists, and you and >> >other atheists claimed that I had said that London, England, does not >> >exist. ?I did not say a thing about London, England. ?It all came from >> >atheists. >> >> You lie to us, once again. Please, don't post another post that contains >> lies. Learn to be honest. Stop mocking the religion you claim to be part >> of and stop mocking the God you claim to worship. Your lies are a stench >> upon the world. > >Well, I just said that Hezekiah's tunnel exists. Why do you find that >to be such a stench upon the world? I was referring to your lie, not to Hezekiah's tunnel. |