From: Walter Bushell on
In article <htukm9$2e9$2(a)lust.ihug.co.nz>,
"Your Name" <your.name(a)isp.com> wrote:

> "John Navas" <jnspam1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> news:a315065qebubltq5lefijul2os2dpksrm6(a)4ax.com...
> >
> > Pretty much my thinking as well.
> > I need a decent keyboard for email, documents, presentations,
> > annotations, etc.
>
> You can get a real keyboard for the iPad - both from Apple and evidently
> most USB keyboards via the camera adapter ... BUT the iPad is not a
> computer, never was, never will be.
>
>
> > Why would anyone rationally buy an iPad when (say) the Acer
> > Aspire One can be had for only $200 (Newegg Memorial Day sale)?
>
> You'd buy the iPad just to escape Windoze hell. :-)

To escape Windows Hell, Linux is a decent alternative.

--
A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without mustard.
From: nospam on
In article <slrni05rc8.5k.dcferguson(a)akit-ferguson.com>, Dennis
Ferguson <dcferguson(a)pacbell.net> wrote:

> >> Tell that to those of us with Android phones that cost us less, give us
> >> more, and don't limit us to AT&T. :D
> >
> > android phones are just catching up to iphones and the at&t exclusivity
> > is going to end, probably sooner than people think.
>
> How soon do people think AT&T exclusivity is going to end?

people keep claiming there was a 5 year exclusive, despite nothing
official, which would mean 2012. it won't be that long.

it will definitely go away when all carriers deploy lte which should
start late this year and into next year, so i'd say 2011 at the latest.

the question is, will the exclusive go away before 2011, as in this
year sometime? we might find out next week...

> > android 2.2 adds tethering, something the iphone has had for a year.
> > although at&t doesn't support it on the iphone, just about every other
> > carrier does.
>
> My iPhone can be tethered on about 12% of the carriers the phone
> can be used with. That's "just about every other carrier"?

how many subscribers does that cover? and we're one week away from the
official announcement of 4.0, which is rumoured to have enhancements to
tethering.

> > all), they could disable tethering entirely. sprint has announced it's
> > going to be $30/mo *more* for tethering.
>
> Why is that surprising?

it's not surprising at all. it's just that android fanbois point out
how much better tethering is on android (and the wifi hotspot is
definitely nice), but so far the ability to do so hasn't been released
yet except on one model phone only on one carrier (where have i heard
this before?)

> That's what Verizon and AT&T charge as well
> (I don't know what T-Mobile charges, it might be cheaper).

i don't think t-mobile is currently charging extra for tethering with
the nexus one. they're #4 so they might want to woo a few more
customers. who knows how long that will last though.
From: nospam on
In article <9kp506te8ttcicf2kn68t2imio55r4noe3(a)4ax.com>, Jeff
Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote:

> Apple tried to bury the product by spinning off the company as Newton
> Inc.

that wasn't to bury it that was to spin it off so that apple could
concentrate on computers.

> When Steve Jobs returned, the company was immediately purchased
> by Apple.

actually it was purchased before steve returned. once purchased, he
basically took over and booted out amelio, er, i mean, amelio resigned
to 'pursue personal interests' or whatever the phrase is for firing
upper management.

> Some of the original developers left to form Pixo, which
> became the basis of the first iPod operating system. After pillaging
> Pixo for everything useful, Apple sold the company to Sun Micro.

apple didn't own pixo. apple decided to change parts and pixo didn't
really have any other major customers. that was the end of pixo.

> When you use an Apple iPhone or the handwriting recognition in OS/X,
> please remember that it's roots are in the Apple Newton.

the iphone has very little to do with the newton other than one sound.
From: Your Name on
In article <q6n5061n7r1r9nfg5japerk1uc1kmhjifb(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<jnspam1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 31 May 2010 09:04:34 +1200, "Your Name" <your.name(a)isp.com>
> wrote in <htukm9$2e9$2(a)lust.ihug.co.nz>:
>
> >
> >"John Navas" <jnspam1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> >news:a315065qebubltq5lefijul2os2dpksrm6(a)4ax.com...
> >>
> >> Pretty much my thinking as well.
> >> I need a decent keyboard for email, documents, presentations,
> >> annotations, etc.
> >
> >You can get a real keyboard for the iPad - both from Apple and evidently
> >most USB keyboards via the camera adapter ... BUT the iPad is not a
> >computer, never was, never will be.
>
> Carrying around a USB keyboard would seem to defeat the entire purpose
> of the device.

You can get fold-up and roll-up keyboards, as well as mini-keyboards,
etc., even a laser projected keyboard (although that wouldn't really be
any better than the on-screen keyboard).



> >> Why would anyone rationally buy an iPad when (say) the Acer
> >> Aspire One can be had for only $200 (Newegg Memorial Day sale)?
> >
> >You'd buy the iPad just to escape Windoze hell. :-)
>
> What hell? Works for me.

Viruses, malware, and buggy, bloated and over-priced software, ...
From: Your Name on
In article <0bn5065qj41ptfcpi6utakj7v2h5kpont4(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<jnspam1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 31 May 2010 09:02:27 +1200, "Your Name" <your.name(a)isp.com>
> wrote in <htuke8$2e9$1(a)lust.ihug.co.nz>:
>
> >Apple rarely gets it completely wrong, and when they (supposedly) do it's
> >really a matter of mis-timing, e.g. the Newton was cancelled just as
> >everybody else started jumping on the PDA bandwagon.
>
> Newton was canceled because Apple got it completely wrong.

Yep, Apple got it wrong ... that explains why so many other companies
jumped on the bandwagon only a couple of years later. :-\

The only things Apple got wrong with the Newton was the price and
releasing it before it was really ready (resulting in problems with the
handwriting recognition for many people).
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