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From: dorayme on 26 Dec 2009 16:31 In article <261220090101408857%aeiou(a)mostly.invalid>, Mark Conrad <aeiou(a)mostly.invalid> wrote: > In article <doraymeRidThis-F04E68.08181326122009(a)news.albasani.net>, > dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > I am sorry so many millions of your poorer citizens > > get such a lousy deal at the moment and that someone > > who is trying desperately to do something about it > > is being torn to shreds and hampered in his every > > effort before he can get anything at all going. > > Hampered? - seems to me he is getting everything > his own way, his bloated health bill has passed both > houses of congress here. > I am always a few days late on the latest news... I think you better study what he wanted and take away what he got after all the vested interests got stuck into it. > > > I am sorry so many millions of your poorer citizens > > get such a lousy deal at the moment... > > I am considered a poverty case by our governments > own standards, and I do not have any such "lousy deal" > when it comes to health care, just the opposite. > > The only people who will benefit are the illegal aliens > who have no repect for the rule of law and flood our > country, overloading our health system and our school > system and our crime-prevention system. Helen Hunt's son was not an illegal immigrant and if it was not for the fact that his mum met Jack Nicholson, a famous author with money and connections, he was set for a miserable life with his asthma. -- dorayme
From: dorayme on 26 Dec 2009 16:36 In article <261220090101469204%aeiou(a)mostly.invalid>, Mark Conrad <aeiou(a)mostly.invalid> wrote: > In article <0093127c$0$8156$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates > <warren.oates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > ...my family doctor sees me within minimally 48 hours > > and sometimes the same day. > > Hope for your sake you do not get "maybe" symptoms of > a brain aneurysm that needs prompt action in less than > an hour, a burst aneurysm (stroke) is a major killer > which will not wait for the slow nanny-state testing > approval in your country. You have a distorted view, I am afraid, about what happens in countries that have different health systems to the US. In Australia, for example, it is precisely the above situation that the poorest of the poor often and usually gets the best that medical science can offer and as promptly as the ambulance gets to a hospital. And they get to go home to their own home, their old car is still in their driveway, the furniture is still there and they even get to keep their own bed. -- dorayme
From: dorayme on 26 Dec 2009 16:46 In article <261220090101408857%aeiou(a)mostly.invalid>, Mark Conrad <aeiou(a)mostly.invalid> wrote: > If I wanted to live in a socialist nanny-state society, > I would move to a socialist country. I meant to comment on this and forgot. You have a very distorted view indeed. You *are* living in a nanny state because of the drug prohibition laws where adults are not allowed to do what the hell they like to their own bodies. The consequences of this are incredibly far reaching; your courts, jails and hospitals are unnecessarily fuller than they would be otherwise and by a huge factor. <http://members.optushome.com.au/droovies/opinion/drugLaws.html> -- dorayme
From: Kurt Ullman on 26 Dec 2009 16:47 In article <doraymeRidThis-D091C8.08364227122009(a)news.albasani.net>, dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > You have a distorted view, I am afraid, about what happens in countries > that have different health systems to the US. In Australia, for example, > it is precisely the above situation that the poorest of the poor often > and usually gets the best that medical science can offer and as promptly > as the ambulance gets to a hospital. And they get to go home to their > own home, their old car is still in their driveway, the furniture is > still there and they even get to keep their own bed. Same here. The safety net hospitals are almost all teaching hospitals at big academic medical centers. MCare pays for most of the really poor and even more when the hospitals do the paperwork to get people on the roles. Where there are some holes is for the working poor and more recently with those more middle class. The problems could be cured with some changes around the edges instead of a wholesale sacking of the current system. -- To find that place where the rats don't race and the phones don't ring at all. If once, you've slept on an island. Scott Kirby "If once you've slept on an island"
From: dorayme on 26 Dec 2009 16:54
In article <261220091140124348%aeiou(a)mostly.invalid>, Mark Conrad <aeiou(a)mostly.invalid> wrote: > Y'know what, I was actually envious of my cat, because > I watched all my personal friends die in pain at these > end-of-life "hospices" for the terminally ill. > > Not for me, buddy. Right now I have several applications > cooking, as a security guard in any high-risk crime area, > or as a cop in Bagdad. Plus my motorcycle license is still > valid and operational, I might start competitive > murdercycle racing - - - with a "blower" that runs > only $600 I can get a bike well over 200 mph. > > Drag bikes get close to 300 mph near the end of their run. Geez, Mark, you sure know how to depress our little gathering here! -- dorayme |