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From: AV3 on 27 Dec 2009 22:12 On Dec/27/2009 2:4814 PM, Mark Conrad wrote: > In article > <wclark2-C7DDF6.09503127122009(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, > William Clark<wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > >> ... > > Insurance companies do not provide health care, > the money comes from taxes. > > All the insurance company does is to juggle all that > tax money before it is dispensed to the health > industry, plus keep a very small portion of > that tax money for themselves, as a fee. > > If they keep _too_ _much_ money for themselves, > a competitive insurance company will run them > out of business. > They grub for money any way they can. They collect payments for years until the client tries to collect a benefit and try to find some excuse to weasel out of paying. Only the richer clients have the resources to fight denial of benefits. There is no competition to protect clients from the weasels; only the fittest survive. Capitalism at work. One of the most attractive features of the current legislation is compelling insurance companies to cover all comers. These are the risks most Western societies already take into account at far less cost than our insurance companies. It's good we are starting to learn from our betters. > > ... -- ++====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====+====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====++ ||Arnold VICTOR, New York City, i. e., <arvimideQ(a)Wearthlink.net> || ||Arnoldo VIKTORO, Nov-jorkurbo, t. e., <arvimideQ(a)Wearthlink.net> || ||Remove capital letters from e-mail address for correct address/ || || Forigu majusklajn literojn el e-poŝta adreso por ĝusta adreso || ++====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====+====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====++
From: Nick Naym on 27 Dec 2009 22:22 In article 1pmdnR6B6uQKQ6nWnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com, Kurt Ullman at kurtullman(a)yahoo.com wrote on 12/25/09 10:47 AM: .... .... > If > you look at the polls, in the US, the number of people happy with THEIR > insurance runs about 80%. However much less about the system in general. > Sorta interesting that these numbers are pretty much in line with > polling that shows little support for Congress, but much higher support > for their personal CongressCritter. I am trying to figure out the > importance of that congruence (g). Important point not often mentioned: Those who like their health plans the most are those who _use_ them the least. -- iMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) � OS X (10.5.8)
From: Nick Naym on 27 Dec 2009 22:30 In article 271220091148147587%aeiou(a)mostly.invalid, Mark Conrad at aeiou(a)mostly.invalid wrote on 12/27/09 2:48 PM: > In article > <wclark2-C7DDF6.09503127122009(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, > William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > >> The lunacy in the current US system is the notion >> that health care should be provided by private >> insurance companies (whose business is based on >> eliminating high risk clients), and linked to >> employment. There is simply no logic >> in that any more. > > Faulty logic on your above statement. > > Insurance companies do not provide health care, > the money comes from taxes. > > All the insurance company does is to juggle all that > tax money before it is dispensed to the health > industry, plus keep a very small portion of > that tax money for themselves, as a fee. > > If they keep _too_ _much_ money for themselves, > a competitive insurance company will run them > out of business. > > > That is, > ...unless some ObamaCare politicians decide to eliminate > > _all_ health insurance companies. If that happens, > there is nothing to prevent the ObamaCare zealots from > grabbing as much tax money as they want to grab. > > > Unlike you, I do not trust any nanny-state politicians to do > the Right Thing. > > Mark- Someone's been messin' with _your_ meds. <sheesh> -- iMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) � OS X (10.5.8)
From: Wes Groleau on 27 Dec 2009 23:42 AV3 wrote: > Not forced down anyone's throat. There was an election. Obama promised > to support Congress in passing health care reform pretty much like what > the House of Representatives has recently passed. In that election Obama He also promised to do something about "ear-marks" which make up a large percentage of what the House and Senate have passed. -- Wes Groleau World's Strangest Laws http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/russell?itemid=1478
From: Wes Groleau on 27 Dec 2009 23:51
Nick Naym wrote: > You know, Mark, it seems to me that any time the right wing doesn't like an > idea or position, they blame it on the lefties/commies, Al Quaeda (or And any time the left wing doesn't like an idea, ... So how about all us moderates try to drown out both extremes with a little civilized discussion? -- Wes Groleau There ain't no right wing, there ain't no left wing. There's only you and me and we just disagree. (apologies to Jim Krueger) |