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From: nospam on 5 Aug 2010 20:02 In article <kvim565pseig2p2b8nh462eiqerfta9apt(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >As to Android, yes they are selling lots these days, but the numbers are > >still small compared to the number of active iPhones, > > Depends on your definition of "small" -- 8.7 million Android handsets > here in the U.S. compared with 10.7 million iPhones according to > Quantcast. so iphone is still ahead, contrary to your claim that android is ahead of iphone. more importantly, those numbers do not include the ipod touch and the ipad. there are over 100 million ios devices in the world, with android but a tiny fraction of that number. where android may be ahead is in day to day sales, but they have a lot of catching up to do. > >and it is spread > >among providers. > > True, but Android phones on AT&T <http://goo.gl/EyTr> aren't generating > complaints the way iPhone has and still is. bullshit. look at recent user surveys, which were *not* about the iphone, but carriers in general, i.e., all phones.
From: nospam on 5 Aug 2010 20:03 In article <a4km56l5feggmq9sodcfkj7v8enskrv5cn(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> True, but Android phones on AT&T <http://goo.gl/EyTr> aren't generating > >> complaints the way iPhone has and still is. > > > >Sorry, but you've provided nothing to support that claim. Can you? > > No lawsuits or press reports of problems. > Anything to counter that? ;) that is not proof of anything.
From: nospam on 5 Aug 2010 20:04 In article <l6km565s51vqkhioos6rel7orqqf2mq6q2(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> On the contrary -- Android has now moved past iPhone into 2nd place > >> behind RIM in smartphones. > > > >In numbers in use? I don't think so. Can you provide a link showing > >that please? > > Been there, done that -- see my posts here with citations and numbers. > Otherwise, "Google is your friend." in other words, no you can't.
From: Jeff Liebermann on 5 Aug 2010 20:08 On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:51:17 -0500, Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: >> On the contrary -- Android has now moved past iPhone into 2nd place >> behind RIM in smartphones. > >In numbers in use? I don't think so. Can you provide a link showing >that please? 1st quarter 2010 <http://www.npd.com/press/releases/press_100510.html> RIM 36% Android 28% Apple 21% 2nd quarter 2010 <http://www.npd.com/press/releases/press_100804.html> RIM 28% Android 33% Apple 22% -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl(a)cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
From: Alan Baker on 5 Aug 2010 20:09
In article <a4km56l5feggmq9sodcfkj7v8enskrv5cn(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:53:48 -0700, in > <alangbaker-C1329B.16534805082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker > <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > > >In article <kvim565pseig2p2b8nh462eiqerfta9apt(a)4ax.com>, > > John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:21:34 -0500, in > >> <lloydparsons-CEA3F6.15213405082010(a)idisk.mac.com>, Lloyd Parsons > >> <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: > >> > >> >In article <050820101307103677%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, > >> > nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> > > >> >> In article <lloydparsons-E4398D.15041505082010(a)idisk.mac.com>, Lloyd > >> >> Parsons <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > > > And for all the complaints about how good/bad AT&T is, > >> >> > > > there has been much conjecture that if any other provider had > >> >> > > > been > >> >> > > > given > >> >> > > > the iPhone exclusive, they would have had the same problems that > >> >> > > > AT&T > >> >> > > > has had with the useage patterns. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > except that with the explosion of android phones, you don't see > >> >> > > very > >> >> > > many complaints about verizon, yet you still see complaints about > >> >> > > at&t. > >> >> > > >> >> > In the grand scheme of things, that explosion is not a big one. The > >> >> > numbers are still pretty low. > >> >> > >> >> although there are a lot more iphones than android devices, android is > >> >> selling a *lot* of devices and there aren't very many problems on > >> >> verizon, sprint or t-mobile. with the iphone, at&t had problems from > >> >> day one. > >> > > >> >That is true, and the conjecture was that back then, any provider would > >> >have had a horrible time dealing with it. Of course, it should be > >> >better now, and from reports I see, it is in many parts of the country, > >> >but not all. > >> > > >> >As to Android, yes they are selling lots these days, but the numbers are > >> >still small compared to the number of active iPhones, > >> > >> Depends on your definition of "small" -- 8.7 million Android handsets > >> here in the U.S. compared with 10.7 million iPhones according to > >> Quantcast. > >> > >> >and it is spread > >> >among providers. > >> > >> True, but Android phones on AT&T <http://goo.gl/EyTr> aren't generating > >> complaints the way iPhone has and still is. > > > >Sorry, but you've provided nothing to support that claim. Can you? > > No lawsuits or press reports of problems. Sorry, but you said "complaints" what you're seeing in the press is that Apple gets lots of press, and there is no iPhone lawsuit of which I'm aware. > Anything to counter that? ;) -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |