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From: Lloyd Parsons on 5 Aug 2010 16:21 In article <050820101307103677%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <lloydparsons-E4398D.15041505082010(a)idisk.mac.com>, Lloyd > Parsons <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: > > > > > And for all the complaints about how good/bad AT&T is, > > > > there has been much conjecture that if any other provider had been > > > > given > > > > the iPhone exclusive, they would have had the same problems that AT&T > > > > has had with the useage patterns. > > > > > > except that with the explosion of android phones, you don't see very > > > many complaints about verizon, yet you still see complaints about at&t. > > > > In the grand scheme of things, that explosion is not a big one. The > > numbers are still pretty low. > > although there are a lot more iphones than android devices, android is > selling a *lot* of devices and there aren't very many problems on > verizon, sprint or t-mobile. with the iphone, at&t had problems from > day one. That is true, and the conjecture was that back then, any provider would have had a horrible time dealing with it. Of course, it should be better now, and from reports I see, it is in many parts of the country, but not all. As to Android, yes they are selling lots these days, but the numbers are still small compared to the number of active iPhones, and it is spread among providers. -- Lloyd
From: John Navas on 5 Aug 2010 19:40 On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:04:15 -0500, in <lloydparsons-E4398D.15041505082010(a)idisk.mac.com>, Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: >In article <050820101301232886%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, > nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> In article <lloydparsons-2C9285.10404005082010(a)idisk.mac.com>, Lloyd >> Parsons <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: >> >> > And for all the complaints about how good/bad AT&T is, >> > there has been much conjecture that if any other provider had been given >> > the iPhone exclusive, they would have had the same problems that AT&T >> > has had with the useage patterns. >> >> except that with the explosion of android phones, you don't see very >> many complaints about verizon, yet you still see complaints about at&t. > >In the grand scheme of things, that explosion is not a big one. The >numbers are still pretty low. On the contrary -- Android has now moved past iPhone into 2nd place behind RIM in smartphones. -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: Lloyd Parsons on 5 Aug 2010 19:51 In article <gtim561mpmfelmnl94fc7oq2tjnoks7vfh(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:04:15 -0500, in > <lloydparsons-E4398D.15041505082010(a)idisk.mac.com>, Lloyd Parsons > <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: > > >In article <050820101301232886%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, > > nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > > > >> In article <lloydparsons-2C9285.10404005082010(a)idisk.mac.com>, Lloyd > >> Parsons <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: > >> > >> > And for all the complaints about how good/bad AT&T is, > >> > there has been much conjecture that if any other provider had been given > >> > the iPhone exclusive, they would have had the same problems that AT&T > >> > has had with the useage patterns. > >> > >> except that with the explosion of android phones, you don't see very > >> many complaints about verizon, yet you still see complaints about at&t. > > > >In the grand scheme of things, that explosion is not a big one. The > >numbers are still pretty low. > > On the contrary -- Android has now moved past iPhone into 2nd place > behind RIM in smartphones. In numbers in use? I don't think so. Can you provide a link showing that please? -- Lloyd
From: John Navas on 5 Aug 2010 19:52 On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:21:34 -0500, in <lloydparsons-CEA3F6.15213405082010(a)idisk.mac.com>, Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: >In article <050820101307103677%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, > nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> In article <lloydparsons-E4398D.15041505082010(a)idisk.mac.com>, Lloyd >> Parsons <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: >> >> > > > And for all the complaints about how good/bad AT&T is, >> > > > there has been much conjecture that if any other provider had been >> > > > given >> > > > the iPhone exclusive, they would have had the same problems that AT&T >> > > > has had with the useage patterns. >> > > >> > > except that with the explosion of android phones, you don't see very >> > > many complaints about verizon, yet you still see complaints about at&t. >> > >> > In the grand scheme of things, that explosion is not a big one. The >> > numbers are still pretty low. >> >> although there are a lot more iphones than android devices, android is >> selling a *lot* of devices and there aren't very many problems on >> verizon, sprint or t-mobile. with the iphone, at&t had problems from >> day one. > >That is true, and the conjecture was that back then, any provider would >have had a horrible time dealing with it. Of course, it should be >better now, and from reports I see, it is in many parts of the country, >but not all. > >As to Android, yes they are selling lots these days, but the numbers are >still small compared to the number of active iPhones, Depends on your definition of "small" -- 8.7 million Android handsets here in the U.S. compared with 10.7 million iPhones according to Quantcast. >and it is spread >among providers. True, but Android phones on AT&T <http://goo.gl/EyTr> aren't generating complaints the way iPhone has and still is. -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: Alan Baker on 5 Aug 2010 19:53
In article <kvim565pseig2p2b8nh462eiqerfta9apt(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:21:34 -0500, in > <lloydparsons-CEA3F6.15213405082010(a)idisk.mac.com>, Lloyd Parsons > <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: > > >In article <050820101307103677%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, > > nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > > > >> In article <lloydparsons-E4398D.15041505082010(a)idisk.mac.com>, Lloyd > >> Parsons <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: > >> > >> > > > And for all the complaints about how good/bad AT&T is, > >> > > > there has been much conjecture that if any other provider had been > >> > > > given > >> > > > the iPhone exclusive, they would have had the same problems that > >> > > > AT&T > >> > > > has had with the useage patterns. > >> > > > >> > > except that with the explosion of android phones, you don't see very > >> > > many complaints about verizon, yet you still see complaints about > >> > > at&t. > >> > > >> > In the grand scheme of things, that explosion is not a big one. The > >> > numbers are still pretty low. > >> > >> although there are a lot more iphones than android devices, android is > >> selling a *lot* of devices and there aren't very many problems on > >> verizon, sprint or t-mobile. with the iphone, at&t had problems from > >> day one. > > > >That is true, and the conjecture was that back then, any provider would > >have had a horrible time dealing with it. Of course, it should be > >better now, and from reports I see, it is in many parts of the country, > >but not all. > > > >As to Android, yes they are selling lots these days, but the numbers are > >still small compared to the number of active iPhones, > > Depends on your definition of "small" -- 8.7 million Android handsets > here in the U.S. compared with 10.7 million iPhones according to > Quantcast. > > >and it is spread > >among providers. > > True, but Android phones on AT&T <http://goo.gl/EyTr> aren't generating > complaints the way iPhone has and still is. Sorry, but you've provided nothing to support that claim. Can you? -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |