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From: John Navas on 5 Aug 2010 12:13 On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 10:36:11 -0500, in <lloydparsons-274798.10361105082010(a)idisk.mac.com>, Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: >In article <7mll561hrkbausg6vsdrmrl17j15s6fesl(a)4ax.com>, > John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >> The apparent problem here is nanny design by Apple, which shuts the >> machine down at a conservative temperature, which can be quite annoying, >> and quite possibly unnecessary. My ThinkPad, by comparison, will only >> resort to that when the processor actually approaches an unsafe >> temperature, continuing to operate normally even with a quite hot >> chassis. But then it has active cooling. ;) > >I think Apple made the right choice. The iPad is an ultra-portable >device, meant to be more portable than a laptop. So you don't go to >battery shortening fans and such in these things. A temperature-controlled fan consumes very little power, so that wouldn't seem to be the issue. My guess(tm) is that it's simply a matter of design esthetics, much like the fanless Mac, and whether it's a good idea or not is a matter of some debate. >But frankly, the only time it seems to be an issue is if you put it out >on a very hot day in direct sunlight for an extended length of time. My guess(tm) is the overheating issue is more a matter of direct solar radiation, with ambient temperature more a matter of how long it takes to overheat the unit. >Hardly a normal useage, imo. I disagree. Use in different environments is a big part of the attraction of a mobile computing device. I had been toying with the idea of using it as a wireless display on a racing sailboat, but the overheating issue looks like a showstopper. >But this isn't about whether it is good or bad design, it is strictly >that some lawyer thinks he/she can make a buck or two in a lawsuit. >Nothing more, nothing less. I disagree. Contingency lawyers are only attracted if there's a substantial issue and chance of success. -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: Lloyd Parsons on 5 Aug 2010 12:50 In article <kaol56t0edrpq0vnm25jedi4te7r5pt2r2(a)4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >But this isn't about whether it is good or bad design, it is strictly > >that some lawyer thinks he/she can make a buck or two in a lawsuit. > >Nothing more, nothing less. > > I disagree. Contingency lawyers are only attracted if there's a > substantial issue and chance of success. > You really aren't disagreeing. The issue isn't important it is the chance of a settlement that drives it. The lawyer only uses an 'issue' when it seems to work for that one single goal - settlement! -- Lloyd
From: John Navas on 5 Aug 2010 12:58 On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 09:24:28 -0700, in <5fnl56dgbe88lejmjmulpo5s2lp3r44l5q(a)4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: >Drivel: One thing I *REALLY* like about the iPhone 4 is the large >number of used 3G and 3GS phones appearing on the used market. The 3G >and 3GS are what the iPod Touch should have been, with a camera, GPS, >and built in mic/spkr. My 3G makes a fairly good PDA with the phone >turned off and using Wi-Fi. The annoying thing is that you have to activate it on AT&T before you can use it as a fancy PDA/iPod. -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: John Navas on 5 Aug 2010 12:58 On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:50:02 -0500, in <lloydparsons-3DA640.11500205082010(a)idisk.mac.com>, Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: >In article <kaol56t0edrpq0vnm25jedi4te7r5pt2r2(a)4ax.com>, > John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> >But this isn't about whether it is good or bad design, it is strictly >> >that some lawyer thinks he/she can make a buck or two in a lawsuit. >> >Nothing more, nothing less. >> >> I disagree. Contingency lawyers are only attracted if there's a >> substantial issue and chance of success. > >You really aren't disagreeing. The issue isn't important it is the >chance of a settlement that drives it. The lawyer only uses an 'issue' >when it seems to work for that one single goal - settlement! I disagree (from direct experience). -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: Jeff Liebermann on 5 Aug 2010 14:55
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 09:58:16 -0700, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 09:24:28 -0700, in ><5fnl56dgbe88lejmjmulpo5s2lp3r44l5q(a)4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann ><jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: > >>Drivel: One thing I *REALLY* like about the iPhone 4 is the large >>number of used 3G and 3GS phones appearing on the used market. The 3G >>and 3GS are what the iPod Touch should have been, with a camera, GPS, >>and built in mic/spkr. My 3G makes a fairly good PDA with the phone >>turned off and using Wi-Fi. > >The annoying thing is that you have to activate it on AT&T before you >can use it as a fancy PDA/iPod. I'm still trying to figure out exactly how that works. Two of the iPhone 3G's came with the original SIM card. They work just fine as a PDA without jailbreaking. Moving the working SIM to these phones does not work. Neither does installing a SIM from a working ordinary AT&T phone. Jailbreaking works, but with iOS 4.01, there are problems. Long delays, GPS doesn't work with all apps, YouTube app can't find the internet, crashes, spontaneous reboots, and other oddities. It's much more stable without Jailbreaking. The issue has been settled in some court case involving Sprint. I'll see if I can find the details, but as I recall, Sprint initially refused to remove the vendor lock from their cell phones when the original contract expired. After some litigation, they now will remove the vendor lock after the contract term is completed. Same with all the other vendors except AT&T on both the Go Phone and iPhone. Sprint and probably AT&T correctly contend that if they subsidize the initial cost of the phone over the contract term, then they should have some say in how it's used, and how it's disposed. I agree with that, but after 2 years, it should revert to the owners control. I expect this to eventually become an issue with all the current expensive fashion phones, errr... smart phones. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl(a)cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |