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From: Tom on 5 Aug 2010 05:30 "ZnU" <znu(a)fake.invalid> wrote in message news:znu-D88994.01023305082010(a)Port80.Individual.NET... > In article <s0ak5698todbea96dqr2gg53hk5vv4o8ht(a)4ax.com>, > John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:03:35 -0700, in >> <alangbaker-9DD5D2.18033504082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker >> <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: >> >> >In article <90o6o.49749$xZ2.44301(a)newsfe07.iad>, >> > John Slade <hhitman86(a)pacbell.net> wrote: >> >> >> To me this is yet another clear cut case where a device has >> >> been produced without allowing technology to catch up. There >> >> should be no compromises for using an iPad or any tablet/netbook >> >> in sunlight. They should have tested it in the sunlight. They >> >> could have made it thicker with better cooling. But no, they >> >> wanted thin and cute rather than a little thicker and practical. >> > >> >How would making it thicker have given it better cooling? >> >> Less thermal energy per unit of volume. Physical shrink of a device >> with the same components tends to exacerbate thermal problems. > > In the case of an iPad in direct sunlight, the thermal energy is > primarily coming from an external source. Unless you think they should > have pun a fan in the thing (which is ludicrous, IMO), it's really > unclear exactly what they could have possibly done about this. I mean, > other than making the device highly reflective. Which it is. > > In any event, there is no systematic testing showing an actual problem > here in the first place. > > -- > "The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and > over-exacting to > anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who > has it > must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes since most that post here don�t have a ipad and I do I would like to make a observation using a ipad in the sunlight is almost impossible the screen is all washed out, also I have never had my Ipad overheat even after hours of use. since I buy ebooks from 4 different suppliers it is the best reader for me as it has apts for borders, kindle, ibooks, and ereader
From: Lloyd Parsons on 5 Aug 2010 08:42 In article <i3e0as$mj8$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "Tom" <tc(a)comcast.net> wrote: > "ZnU" <znu(a)fake.invalid> wrote in message > news:znu-D88994.01023305082010(a)Port80.Individual.NET... > > In article <s0ak5698todbea96dqr2gg53hk5vv4o8ht(a)4ax.com>, > > John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:03:35 -0700, in > >> <alangbaker-9DD5D2.18033504082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker > >> <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > >> > >> >In article <90o6o.49749$xZ2.44301(a)newsfe07.iad>, > >> > John Slade <hhitman86(a)pacbell.net> wrote: > >> > >> >> To me this is yet another clear cut case where a device has > >> >> been produced without allowing technology to catch up. There > >> >> should be no compromises for using an iPad or any tablet/netbook > >> >> in sunlight. They should have tested it in the sunlight. They > >> >> could have made it thicker with better cooling. But no, they > >> >> wanted thin and cute rather than a little thicker and practical. > >> > > >> >How would making it thicker have given it better cooling? > >> > >> Less thermal energy per unit of volume. Physical shrink of a device > >> with the same components tends to exacerbate thermal problems. > > > > In the case of an iPad in direct sunlight, the thermal energy is > > primarily coming from an external source. Unless you think they should > > have pun a fan in the thing (which is ludicrous, IMO), it's really > > unclear exactly what they could have possibly done about this. I mean, > > other than making the device highly reflective. Which it is. > > > > In any event, there is no systematic testing showing an actual problem > > here in the first place. > > > > -- > > "The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and > > over-exacting to > > anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who > > has it > > must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes > > since most that post here don�t have a ipad and I do I would like to make a > observation > using a ipad in the sunlight is almost impossible the screen is all washed > out, also I have never had my Ipad overheat even after hours of use. since > I buy ebooks from 4 different suppliers it is the best reader for me as it > has apts for borders, kindle, ibooks, and ereader I've got one too. I agree that in DIRECT sunlight it is unreadable, but that is true for all backlit screens. Otherwise I've read outside a few times in bright sun, but not with it directly on the screen. And no overheats at all. -- Lloyd
From: Lloyd Parsons on 5 Aug 2010 08:43 In article <040820102230590650%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <znu-D88994.01023305082010(a)Port80.Individual.NET>, ZnU > <znu(a)fake.invalid> wrote: > > > In the case of an iPad in direct sunlight, the thermal energy is > > primarily coming from an external source. Unless you think they should > > have pun a fan in the thing (which is ludicrous, IMO), > > the wepad has a fan in it. > > > it's really > > unclear exactly what they could have possibly done about this. I mean, > > other than making the device highly reflective. Which it is. > > > > In any event, there is no systematic testing showing an actual problem > > here in the first place. > > nor were there massive ipad (or iphone) failures over the last month > when the temperature in the midwest/northeast usa was 90-100+. What do you mean 'when'??? ::) It is still that damn hot around here. -- Lloyd
From: Wes Groleau on 5 Aug 2010 09:18 On 08-05-2010 04:06, Todd Allcock wrote: > Is it not possible that some of the dissatisfaction of AT&T by > iPhone owners is from antenna/dropped calls problems of the phone being > blamed on the operator? Not if it's from people who had AT&T prior to iPhone 4 They really do suck. Picking them for the exclusive was a stupid marketing move. -- Wes Groleau Ostracism: A practice of sticking your head in the sand.
From: News on 5 Aug 2010 10:02
Mac Daddy wrote: > > > "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:alangbaker-F6D2B7.16505904082010(a)news.shawcable.com... >> In article <i3cu9g$e29$3(a)news.eternal-september.org>, >> Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: >> >>> On 08-04-2010 11:40, Alan Baker wrote: >>> > The first refuge of the weak-minded. >>> >>> Call me weak-minded, not because I use a killfile, but >>> because it took me this long to figure out Navas belongs >>> there. >> >> That's why I said "first refuge". There are definitely people one should >> killfile. It just amuses me when I see it happening simply because >> someone is losing an argument. >> >> :-) > > So many battles. On so many fronts. Get a life. This IS his life. |