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From: Alan Baker on 5 Aug 2010 20:11 In article <tckm56h6i3e25l7122k7leetk970oiefi6(a)4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:51:17 -0500, Lloyd Parsons > <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: > > >> On the contrary -- Android has now moved past iPhone into 2nd place > >> behind RIM in smartphones. > > > >In numbers in use? I don't think so. Can you provide a link showing > >that please? > > 1st quarter 2010 > <http://www.npd.com/press/releases/press_100510.html> > RIM 36% > Android 28% > Apple 21% > > 2nd quarter 2010 > <http://www.npd.com/press/releases/press_100804.html> > RIM 28% > Android 33% > Apple 22% Those are quarterly market share figures and not numbers in use. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Jeff Liebermann on 5 Aug 2010 20:16 On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:56:11 -0700, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:55:08 -0700, in ><d81m56dor7isroaf6be9crdmn7pm6550m7(a)4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann ><jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 09:58:16 -0700, John Navas >><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >>>The annoying thing is that you have to activate it on AT&T before you >>>can use it as a fancy PDA/iPod. >> >>I'm still trying to figure out exactly how that works. > >I think a persistent setting is changed in the phone when activated. Yep. The flag to allow operation might also be on the SIM card. Difficult to tell yet. >>Two of the >>iPhone 3G's came with the original SIM card. They work just fine as a >>PDA without jailbreaking. > >Were they ever activated? Yes. Both were previously operational phones, where the previous owner upgraded to an iPhone 4. The other two were probably also activated, but I don't have any history. I have two more 3G phones coming Friday. >>Moving the working SIM to these phones does >>not work. Neither does installing a SIM from a working ordinary AT&T >>phone. Jailbreaking works, but with iOS 4.01, there are problems. >>Long delays, GPS doesn't work with all apps, YouTube app can't find >>the internet, crashes, spontaneous reboots, and other oddities. It's >>much more stable without Jailbreaking. > >No such problems with iOS 3. Haven't messed with iOS 4 yet. Agreed. I shouldn't have upgraded to 4.0 and 4.0.1. I would go back to 3.1.3 via the DFU mode, but every time I try it on 2 different phones, it hangs and dies about 3/4th of the way into the firmware upload. I know it can be done because there are examples all over the web, but I seem to be having problems. I'm trying to avoid turning jailbreaking into a major project, but it seems that there's no alternative. -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl(a)cruzio.com 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
From: nospam on 5 Aug 2010 20:19 In article <tckm56h6i3e25l7122k7leetk970oiefi6(a)4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: > >> On the contrary -- Android has now moved past iPhone into 2nd place > >> behind RIM in smartphones. > > > >In numbers in use? I don't think so. Can you provide a link showing > >that please? > > 1st quarter 2010 > <http://www.npd.com/press/releases/press_100510.html> > RIM 36% > Android 28% > Apple 21% > > 2nd quarter 2010 > <http://www.npd.com/press/releases/press_100804.html> > RIM 28% > Android 33% > Apple 22% market share can be calculated in various ways. smartphone market share, nielsen, through q1 2010: rim 35% iphone 28% windows mobile 19% android 9% palm 4% linux 3% symbian 2% <http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/online_mobile/iphone-vs-android/> also, none of these include the iphone 4, which only had a couple of days of sales in q2 2010.
From: nospam on 5 Aug 2010 20:21 In article <hlkm56pra2bet8aj0u9gu0tohl98n0ppui(a)4ax.com>, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote: > >I think a persistent setting is changed in the phone when activated. > > Yep. The flag to allow operation might also be on the SIM card. > Difficult to tell yet. it's not on the sim. > Agreed. I shouldn't have upgraded to 4.0 and 4.0.1. I would go back > to 3.1.3 via the DFU mode, but every time I try it on 2 different > phones, it hangs and dies about 3/4th of the way into the firmware > upload. I know it can be done because there are examples all over the > web, but I seem to be having problems. I'm trying to avoid turning > jailbreaking into a major project, but it seems that there's no > alternative. a 3g can go back, a 3gs cannot unless you took measures prior to upgrading. there are also some things you can do to improve the performance of a 3g on ios4, and apple is looking into it.
From: nospam on 5 Aug 2010 20:25
In article <alangbaker-31F619.17090105082010(a)news.shawcable.com>, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > > >Sorry, but you've provided nothing to support that claim. Can you? > > > > No lawsuits or press reports of problems. > > Sorry, but you said "complaints" what you're seeing in the press is that > Apple gets lots of press, and there is no iPhone lawsuit of which I'm > aware. there are at least 5 lawsuits for the antenna issue, but having read three of them, they're beyond specious. there have been lawsuits involving the iphone all along, including one a few years ago when someone waited many hours in line only to find that the model she wanted was sold out, so she bought the lower capacity model which was discontinued not long after that (because very few people bought it) so she sued because it was suddenly devalued. |